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Mic + Mic pre choices-your input appreciated

Discussion in 'Recording' started by heyman, Jun 9, 2004.

  1. heyman

    heyman Guest

    I am going into a home studio to work on a project for a band. Here is a list of the mics and mic pre's they have available to them..
    To save time, I was hoping someone could offer me best mix and match of this selection to use on drums. What Mic/mic pre combo would you use on what part of the drums. Sorry, but not familiar with these mic pre's . Any help would be appreciated...

    8 tracks dedicated to drums.

    2 Royer r-122
    3 421's
    2 Sm57's
    1 Akg D112

    Mic pre's
    1 UA 2-610 (2 channel)
    1 Sytek 4 channel w/2 channels burr-brown
    1 Really nice Preamp (2 channel)
  2. johnwy

    johnwy Well-Known Member

    Jan 6, 2003
    Smithtown, NY
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    not familiar with the sytec or the "really nice pres" but right off the the bat I would start would this, assuming that your drum kit consists of three toms:

    use the royers with the "really nice preamps" on the overheads

    the 421's on toms and a 57 on the hat using the sytec

    and use the d112 on the kick and a 57 on the snare using the ua's

    mind you that all of this is subject to change once you start getting sounds, where you might have to find the best match and maybe find something a little better for the hi hat
  3. djui5

    djui5 Guest


    OH's- 122's into the burr-brown's
    Snare- 57 into UA Ch 1
    Kick- 421 into UA Ch 2
    Rack toms- 421's into 2 other sytek's
    Floor tom- D112 into RNP 1

    Too bad you don't have some nice sd's for HH and Ride..but you can make do with the OH's if the drummer's good......
  4. mikE@THECAVE

    mikE@THECAVE Guest

    nice job Randy,sounds like you know what your doing
  5. djui5

    djui5 Guest

    Thanks Mike!

    I try....still learning though.
  6. heyman

    heyman Guest

    Randy, I have heard that the sytec burr brown mods are a little dark sounding, will that be ok for the overheads?
  7. RecorderMan

    RecorderMan Distinguished Member

    Mar 28, 2001
    OH: 2 Royer r-122 into 1 UA 2-610 (2 channel). I's stick these mics out in front of the kit. About 8' high (raise and lower, listen for the spot that sounds "best"). equidistant from kick. This will give you some room/air/bottom on the drums and keep the cymbals from being to dominant regardless of who mixes.
    Kick: D112-Sytek 1 bur-brown
    Snare Top: sm57 -Sytek 2 bur-brown
    Snare Bottom:sm57-Sytek 3
    Floor Tom: 421Sytek 4
    Rack Tom 1:421-1 Really nice Preamp (channel 1)
    Rack Tom 2:421-1 Really nice Preamp (channel 2)

    Cymbals and hat will bleed so you'll get a lot of them. Pulling the OH's out front will place the cymbals back and make the drums louder and give you some room. If there' only rack and floor (2 toms) throw the other 421-RNP on the hat for coverage, or if the hat is very important for detail stick the rack tom 1 mic in between the two rack toms and still use a hat mic/pre. If you have four toms (2 rack 2 floor) one mic between every two toms will work.
    Snare: Place mics (top & bottom) parallel to the heads, about an 1" to 2" above and below rim facing across the head. This lets the mic hear the whole head for ruffs/rolls. Also being "off axis" works well for the sound of the snare/sm57 combo. Check Phase between all mics. You'll have to probably flip the OH's relative to the others &/or the others relative to the OH's etc. AND the bottom snare relative to top should be flipped (or visa versa...use your ears. Easiest to tell in mono).

    have fun

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