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Micing Help

Discussion in 'Recording' started by eightsonstudio, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. Hey guys, as from the jp22 post i know that alot of you guys have good advice so ifugred i would ask you a question.

    I just got a C 414 B-XLS and i was wonderng if anyone has any tips on mcing a guitar cab with this mic. I usually use a 4033 throug my la-610 aaout a foot away off axis. Whcih gives me good result once i double track and pan hard.

    I will be recording a really heavey band with a triple rectifier and really really wnat ot capture that heavey soundn, any tips. I also have more preamps to chooe from

    daking, vintech x73i, focusrite 428. My webiste is eightsonstudio.us for a full listing of my gear. please if anyone has any advice for good thick guitars let me know.
    ther is a track that i did with the 4033 and art tps up there witha XXL peavey head, it is under Crashing Down. Please feel free to tell me what i am doing right and wrong, thanks for your time
  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Distinguished Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    South Florida
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    I've never used that mic for that sort of guitar sound. I've used it for other things, but I don't think it would get that heavy sound that you're looking for.

    After you do it could you post some clips. I'm interested in hearing how that would sound.
  3. yeah no problem. i have used some dynamic mics (421, beta 57, sm7) and i never really got any good reults. I heard that Korn (not ym favorite band) used the 414 on their recods and that is wht got me interested in it
  4. what would you use if not the 414 i iwll put a quick list up

    Sm7b, 57, Beta 57, 4033, Beta 56

    andi put my preaps up there. Just watning so opinions
    thanks again
  5. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    The 4033 is a very true mic. It delivers the source pretty much intact with very little coloration. That particular 414 is a bit bright for 'heavy guitar'...I would think with a triple rectumfryer you'd want something with more body and a definate ability to reproduce low order harmonics faithfully. SM7, SM57,and the two Beta mics would do just that. I dont know what your drum mic collection is like, but another choice would be the ATM25. All of these mics would be the upclose and personal mics and as a room mic the 414 would work well....just not as the primary noise collector. Usually the heavy sounds come from several mics. Watch your phase and have fun.

    Love the Vintech.
  6. yeha i cant wait to use the vintech havent gotten a chance yet, thanks for the good advice. I am using the beta 56 for the toms beta 57 and sm 7 for snare and km 184 fro overheads. thanks for all the info again. any more tips? drums?
  7. rudedogg

    rudedogg Guest

    i tracked a marshall thru a 414 and into an api pre and it sounded awesome. i just put it right up on the grill, and engaged the 20db pad.

  8. awesome, that is the cab i plan on using tooo. now i am debating whether to go through the universal audio LA-610 or the vintech piece. i have never tracked guitar thourhg the vintech pice a matter a fact i havent really tracked anything thourhg it yet except top snare. should be interesting, hey what do you guys think of the Old School Audio stuff and if you have it what do you find it best on? specifacly the MP1-C, i belive i will be purchsing a couple modules tommorw along with a Lynx converter, any thoughts?
  9. rudedogg

    rudedogg Guest

    marshall thru the 414 into the vintech is going to give you an amazing sound. you should definitely try it.
  10. i simply cant wait for tuesday when i am trackig guitars, rectifier style, my least favorite amp heheh
  11. rudedogg

    rudedogg Guest

    you might want to also try the 414 and a sm57. i recorded a mesa triple rectifier, and i used a 57 and a d112 and it sounded really good for heavier stuff. for the non-heavy rock you might try the 414 and 57 combination.
  12. i have heard that using a d112 on heavey stuff works i have always been nervous do so. youthink i shoulod maybe use my daking preamp to brighten it up a little or do you think it might sound a lttle brittle?
  13. blaumph2cool

    blaumph2cool Active Member

    May 2, 2005
    Portland, OR
    My favorite mic to track guitar cabs is my Kel HM-1. These things have the low-end capibility to make rock guitars shine.

    I even tried my HM-1 on a 30Watt practice amp and the thing sounded like a half stack in the mix hands down.
  14. i thin i saw someone else on this board posting about those mics. they are pretty inexpsive correct?
  15. blaumph2cool

    blaumph2cool Active Member

    May 2, 2005
    Portland, OR
    I bought my HM-1 about 6 mo ago for $99.

    In my opinion they are worth well more then what I paid.
  16. so the 414 sounds really good throug the vintech for heavey $*^t, i also had a md412 thourhg my la-610 to warm it up and supply some extra low end. if you have somthing simiar and want to get a warmer sound wit those damn recitfiers i highley recomend....

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