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mic's need pre amp

Discussion in 'Recording' started by RandomGuest, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    I have appox. 20 mic's. I know that is NOT alot. However I want to get a pre amp or one of the pre amp units that have 2, 3, or even 4 channels of pre amps.
    Please remark! (any one BUT that Sproll guy!)
  2. sproll

    sproll Active Member

    Oct 7, 2004
    Try searching... it's been covered many times. You've been here long enough you should know better.

    The pros of the board don't want to waste their time typing the same thing over and over. Hmm, Sebatron VMP-4000? Ever seen that anywhere?
  3. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    20 mics is a pretty good collection... I know our studio doesn't have 20 mics.
  4. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    API 3124+ and be done with it.

  5. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    douch bag

    Whatever Sproll.
    Maybe I want to hear for somebody other than the last guy's opinion.
    You should know better!
  6. p0llen_p0ny

    p0llen_p0ny Guest

    There are quite a few different multichannel mic pres out there. It all depends on what you're willing to spend. Like someone else said, the Sebatrons are very good. Grace Designs make some nice pres. They have an 8 channel model but you're looking at over $3000 for that. What's your budget?
  7. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    pre amp

    Cost is not any problem. I just want the best I can afford. If it has 2 or 4 pre-amps in a unit that is fine.
    8 pre amps in 1 space is too much at this point.
    Only because I will most likely be buying 4 or 5 really high end pre amps. (that way I have different pre too sellect from. rather than 1 type of pre amp sound)
    I want gear that I will never out grow.
    Please reply
  8. heyman

    heyman Guest

    Guy, I dont think anyone would argue this:

    2- 4 API 512 pre's in a lunch box or APi 3124(4 channel) w/wo the mixer option.
    2 channels Great River Mp2NV


    also consider the Chandler LTD 1

    Also the chandler tg2 for a diffrent sound

    Also look into the Mileenia stuff as well.

    With those pre, you are basically covered for all styles of music and they will always hold their value. They are the cream of the crop.
  9. galas

    galas Guest

    Cost is not any problem. I just want the best I can afford.

    This is sort of contradictory. Just beware when you say cost is not an issue, beacuse people will come out and reccommend the most expensive preamp in existence. Great River, Sebatron, API, Grace, etc all make great preamps... and they're talked about constantly if you search around the boards. If you have a specific sound in mind that you're looking for in a mic pre that hasn't been talked about, then post and ask about that specifically
  10. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    I have only two things to say on this subject.....er...I have only three things to say on this subject.....API...........Chandler.........Sebatron.....these are all rock and roll(as well as other things).....I'm certain that a LOT of great classical recordings have been made on API consoles over the years...and as everybody knows, the Chandler stuff is a take-off on the EMI console strips from Abbey Road....did they record any classical there???hmmmmm....As far as worrying about having one kind of preamp sound,all of these will react to your source as you choose them to.Your mic placement and your environment will most certainly be a factor in your final result.Many many beautiful and wonderful recordings have been made with only the pres contained in a console....The trick is to have such audiofile representation of your source that there's a minimum of artifact buildup in the sound.These are ALL pieces you can keep till you retire.
  11. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    pre amps

    "cost is not any problem. I just want the best I can afford"

    What the Hell was I thinking when I typed that $*^t up?
    What I meant to say is anything under $5000 dollars.
    (per unit)
    I want some (2 or 3) for heavy metal recording and live use. And it would be nice if I also got 2 or 3 for rock and/ or softer recordings, you know slow songs.
    I dont do the country thing. So I dont want anything that is basically used in country music songs, and I don't care to record rapping. (this is just FYI)
  12. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    smartass, can you sit on an ice cream cone and tell us what flavor it is? :? :-? "duhhh deeer" Ya could get a "PreSomus" or "Fhart' pres .... "errr, ummmm duuuuh" :? :-? howzabout a"Are-emm-pea"?

    OK to get "real" now, yeah I recommend the VMP -4000e a lot .... and the JLM TMP8 too! and I'm gonna keep on doing it too .... because there's nothing else that's any good that's as affordable .... and most the time the question is "what can I get that won't cost too much?" ... what should I say ??? Sytek? ... yeah right!

    If cost is no object ...

    Great River MP2NV they make these in 4 pacs too! (the MP4NV)

    API 3124+

    Pendulum Quartet II

    Danking pres ... these are Trident knockopffs! real nice ....

    DW Fearn ... again nice stuff!

    Manleys .....

    Amek /Neve System 9098 this one's a pre and a killer eq ! (at least 2)

    A couple Millennia STT-1 Origins ... and / or the HV-3 8 pack ...
  13. Reggie

    Reggie Distinguished Member

    Dec 20, 2004

    I've seen some API's used in a few country music sessions, so mark those off the list.
    And stay away from Avalon, because those are "The Pres of Rappers"
  14. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Kurt, why do you dislike Sytek so much?
  15. Randyman...

    Randyman... Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2003
    Houston, TX
    Another vote for Amek /Neve System 9098EQ. We got to try one this Tuesday. Can you say "This is what EQ should be"? No kidding - aside from a fantastic Mic Pre, you get 4 bands of killer Neve EQ with the Glow and Sheen controls. Used it on a SM-57 (a $2000 pre on a $79 mic!) on a Guitar Amp direct to tape - nice!

    And - you can't go wrong with the API 3124+ for heavy/rock styles. 4 Channels - great for Drums!!! Kicks and Snares LOVE it. I'm not so lucky to own one, but I do have the Seventh Circle A12 clones that I am in love with (and a hell of a lot cheaper, too)...

  16. RandomGuest

    RandomGuest Guest

    Feb 10, 2001
    Thanks for all the great replies!
    This will really help me, & make sure I get a killer pre!
  17. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    Because they run out of headroom and lack dimension ... all attributable to the smallish power supplies ... The Neotek consoles implement this same basic pre much better due to the heftier power supply of the console ... Still, even in a console these pres don't have the warmth or character I like of the transformer discreet based pres I usually favor.
  18. affuman

    affuman Guest

    I take it from this and other threads that most people in this forum primarily record rock and similar genres? Anybody out there have experience in (or the desire to) recording R&B, jazz, hip-hop, and/or rap? I know Guy doesn't want to do the rap thing :wink: but what preamps are best geared towards getting these types of sounds?

    I have to say that as I've been looking through these threads (and there is a lot of great advice here), I'm surprised not to see Avalon Vt-737 and 747 mentioned more. I'm fairly new to the recording engineering side of things, but my experience and research all said that these pres were very good. Are the ones recommend in this thread better overall, or better for rock?

    Like Guy, I'm looking for the best pre I can get for my particular situation, which is R&B, etc.

  19. tripnek

    tripnek Active Member

    Jun 9, 2003
    Have you ever a/b with the real API 312 or perhaps the BAE 312? I really want a few channels of the 312 for drums but just don't have that kind of cash right now. If the SAeventh CIrcle is a good clone I'm all over that price.

  20. Randyman...

    Randyman... Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2003
    Houston, TX
    Sorry. No A/B comparisons between the A12 and an actual API 312. I'm surely diggin the Seventh Circle A12 :D .

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