Didn't want to distract from the point of the other thread. Jack, have some morning juice, you're not making sense yet So if you isolate the side mic which is the fig 8 mic, since the front end is Ve+ and the back side Ve- then wouldn't panning hard left give you the Ve+ signal and panning hard right give you the Ve- signal? Does it change if you add in the Mid signal and M/S summing? i.e. the M+S and M-S? I'm not exactly clear on this quite yet, or what phase has to do with anything. To me, three signals come in, you do what you want with them. Why can't you just keep the fig 8 as a stereo track panned center and the unidirectional mic a mono track panned center? Wouldn't that give you the desired stereo effect? Or are you switching the phase purposely for the fig 8 mic to cancel out the shared frequencies i.e. what the Mid mic is picking up? Because that makes a shred more sense.