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Midi editor to split song into sections

Discussion in 'Recording' started by FVL, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. FVL

    FVL Active Member

    Anyone here have any idea if there is a software (Windows7 based system) to take midi data for a song, add markers or something, then be able to export the regions as separate midi files (midi format 0)? I have a bunch of songs that I would like to build some drum loop archives for practice and/or using as starter beats when writing. I could do it manually but looking for a way to do this more efficiently.

    Any help would be appreciated.
  2. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    Try one, all of them will have some sort of scissor or knife tool.
  3. Kapt.Krunch

    Kapt.Krunch Well-Known Member

    Nearly any MIDI sequencing-capable program could do that.

    You may SAVE them as MIDI 0, but you may want to be able to convert any to MIDI 1 to separate all the tracks if you want to tweak them, and especially, if they have something other than the drums on them, so you can isolate only the drums. Also, you'll want them as separated tracks to run any controller data or other messages, if you want to dig deeper.

    There may be several ways to do what you want, depending on the software. You may be able to just highlight those tracks, and then choose the beginning and end sections, copy, and then paste to a new MIDI file (with a different name, so it doesn't overwrite the original).

    What software do you currently have that might do it, or have checked out? There may even be something free out there, if you're not too concerned about mundo-MIDI-power.

  4. FVL

    FVL Active Member

    Not sure what happened to the reply I posted for gdoubleyou but here is the gist of it.

    I'm currently using Sonar X1 and Nuendo 4. There are quite a few songs I have written that are in the range of 6 to 8 minutes (some up to 12 minutes) that are in many different time signatures. I would like to create some archives of drum midi. I was hoping to find something I could put markers in and export the slices to separate midi files to use to rewrite and/or practice sections. There are a lot of beats and fills that can be reused.

    As an example, if I had a song that is 8 measures long and sliced or put a marker at every measure I would export and have 8 separate files. I could do this in Sonar with 2 sessions open and paste the section to the new file and export but this will take a lot of time for 30 or so songs, plus would not simplify the process in the future. I don't really want to just grab whatever off of the internet and load it and risk messing my system up.

    Please people, don't take this the wrong way, but I don't need a lesson on how to use a scissor tool and cut files. I've been recording for over 20 years and went digital in the early to mid 90s. I do very much appreciate constructive advice though (thanks Kapt.Krunch).

    I'm no expert, but I do have a clue! Ha!
  5. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    I don't know of any way to automate or batch process what you want.

    You should be able to export what's between markers, still would have to set the markers manually.
  6. FVL

    FVL Active Member

    I figured out a way that's a bit better in Sonar X1 to do close to what I want. I can slice the Midi, convert section to a Midi Groove Clip, highlight it, and then export Midi Groove Clip. This only exports the section instead of the whole song.

    Not the best but it is better than nothing. Thanks for your thoughts guys and if you run across something, let me know.

    Have a good one!
  7. Kapt.Krunch

    Kapt.Krunch Well-Known Member

    No problem here. I just hope you didn't think I was being condescending. It was just difficult to know, from the initial info, anything about your level of experience, or if you were familiar with any of the programs. Obviously, if you are using Sonar and Nuendo, you've got more than just a basic knowledge.

    Yeah...I see how that would ease things, but I'm not sure any software can run a process that can automate like that...but then, I certainly am not familiar with all software. But, I think that is example to use, in case anyone knows something that can. Seems like there would still be a lot of manual naming (or renaming) the files, unless you could get it to export "Metal Massacre 1", "Metal Massacre 2", etc., automatically.

    I think the main hurdle is a routine for progressive saves of different parts from one file in one action?

    Good luck (sincerely). Will be interesting to see if anything can do that. Seems kind of like asking (for example) Word to save, say, five different highlighted parts to five different .docs, AND name them? Dunno if a Macro could be created for that...but what do I know?


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