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mixer to PC interface?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by learning2fly13, Mar 4, 2009.

  1. Ok, so I am 100% new to this, but I am in a basement band (we prefer it to the garage) and my friend/fellow guitarist has some pretty decent equipment. Currently we record in his basement, but it's all one track and takes multiple tries to get everything balanced the way we want, not to mention the quality isn't great. I've come across a multi-track editing program (Adobe Audition 1.5), and would like to use it to enhance our home recording capabilities.

    Long story short: can anyone tell me if an 8-channel (or any other # of channels) mixer can output individual signals for individual tracks, or does it mix it down to one signal? What I mean is that each instrument is miked into a separate channel in the mixer. Would the mixer's output signal to a PC include each channel individually, or would they all become one signal? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    they'd all be grouped together if you run through an analog mixer (generally).

    what you really want is an audio interface with 8+ channels for input. take a look at the FireStudio Project, the Profire2626, and other audio interfaces.

    thats what you want.
     
  3. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Mixers mix things down. Interfaces provide ways for a signal to get into your PC.

    What you want is an 8-input interface (and probably 8 preamps) - a mixer may provide 8 preamps but most 8channel interfaces will have 8 preamps already.

    Having said that, some mixers (the Phonic Helix series, the Mackie Onyx 1640) will allow you to use firewire to stream (more than) 8 channels to your PC.
     
  4. Okay, it looks like I need to figure out what exactly he has running into his computer. Im 90% sure it's a mixer, so it looks like I need to investigate interfaces. On the off chance that it does somehow run the channels independently, I should be able to select which channel I want as an input for each track in the software, right?
     
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    The Helix, Onyx w/firewire option, and Allen Heath Zed R16 are all interfaces AND mixers. There are a few other dual purpose items as well but probably those are the three main options. If the mixer is also an interface you will be able to select which channels are in record mode. Most mixers are not also interfaces. Get back to us when you know what gear you actually have.
     
  6. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Most gear also comes with good entry level software. I don't know how you "came across" Audition but I can guess. I would suggest ditching it for the LE version of whatever comes with the interface.
     
  7. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    The Delta 1010 or 1010lt is also worth your consideration.
     
  8. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Audition is actually a good piece of software. I use Audition 3 though and not 1.5.
     
  9. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    C'mon now hueseph, we all know that software is free and everywhere.
     
  10. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Oooo. I missed that little phrase. I don't even think that way. I just save the receipt and write it off on my taxes. If one is a student or teacher there are all kinds of websites that sell educational licenses too. Being legal is too easy to possibly justify going down the dark path.
     
  11. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Are you really ready to go down that road? Do a search on piracy on this site and see what kind of fighting words you are using.
     
  12. stevesmith99

    stevesmith99 Guest

    i'm am totally new at this as well but i have an alesis multimix 16 firewire and not sure if this is helpful or if i am wasting everyones time and anyone correct me if i am wrong but i know on my alesis audition 1.5 will not work because it does not support asio drivers so you cannot record the tracks indavidually. You will need to get 2. 0 or higher in order to do this. Atleast thats what the support from alesis told me because i had 1.5 and was trying to record each track seperatly and couldn't do it.. now i have 3.0 and have no problem doing this. the only problem i have is a weak signal from the mixer but that is a different story.
     
  13. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    A legal and fully licensed copy of Audition 1.5 will in fact use properly installed ASIO drivers for multitrack recording. A cracked/shareware/trial version will not. This was true even back in the Cool Edit Pro days. Audition 3 is far superior to 1.5 any way you want to shake it though.

    If another universal ASIO driver is needed then try ASIO4ALL.
     
  14. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    I was being sarcastic. I hate pirates.
     
  15. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Sorry man. I wasn't sure. I was thinking that might be the case but damn these keyboards! I can never read the intent properly. :oops: :p
     
  16. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    I hate 15 year old pirates....
     
  17. Okay, thanks for all the help. I still don't know what we're looking at, but I'm 90% sure it's a mixer and not an interface. So I've been doing research and shopping around for an interface that can do what we want...and I found the PreSonus FP10 Firepod. Someone might have mentioned this one...I'm not sure. I think it's what we're after, and it's relatively inexpensive (college students...no $$$). Thanks for your help, people.
     
  18. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    You go right ahead and buy that mixer. When you discover that you have to mix all 16 channels of that Be*****er mixer to two channels in your stolen DAW, go sell it on craigslist. Then you can come back here and ask how to record 8 channels of audio to separate tracks in a legal DAW.

    If however you think about it and decide on that FP10, welcome to logical thinking. 8 simultaneous channels of recording. 8 reasonable pres and free and legal recording software.
     
  19. No, I mean what we have is a mixer, which means we need to get an interface, which means we'll have the accompanying software.

    Kindly ask for clarification in the future before you go assuming that I am a complete moron. We've already covered the difference between the two.

    And stop getting on my case about my software. I'm not a pro, I don't intend on being a pro, and I'm on a college student's budget...I take what I can get. Audition for right now is what I have and I was trying to avoid spending money I don't have on something I don't need, but since I have to anyway, I'll be ditching it for whatever comes with the FP10. Thanks.
     
  20. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Regarding the issue of clarity: The onus is on you to be clear in what you are saying. Otherwise you will get responses you don't expect.

    Regarding crack: It's a highly sensitive subject here since most of the forum members buy our software. That means we pay for development of piracy prevention.

    I know what it means to be restricted as far as money goes. I had a student loan and payed every penny of it back. I have kids and child support to pay. Don't cry to me about being strapped for cash. I work hard and save my pennies for the things I can't afford right now. Otherwise I make due with what I have. That's how it's done.
     

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