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Monitoring Mixer to replace my Mackie 24.8 Analog Desk?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Mark II, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. Mark II

    Mark II Guest

    I have a Mackie 24.8 bus Analogue mixer but it just isn't getting used or I should say it's a glorified monitoring desk. I've how moved to software for mixing and use a patch bay to connect all my outboard to my converters.

    Is there a good smaller monitoring desk with say a few channels to monitor my computers outputs and hardware synths as I feel I'm wasting resources and room with such a big desk. I've also got a Spirit Folio SX which I've compared to the Mackie but the Mackie is so much more transparent when monitoring my mixes.

    So basically I need a smaller high quality mixer to monitor my computer and hardware with say a 2TRK return and at least 8 input channels(for my synths) and to be as neutral as possible.

    Cheers.
     
  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

  3. realdynamix

    realdynamix Well-Known Member

    :) Hi Mark, do you want the input channels as neutral as the returns?

    --Rick
     
  4. Mark II

    Mark II Guest

    Thanks for the welcome Kurt.

    I haven't got the big bucks at the moment so something a little less exotic would propably fit the bill although they do look nice. Any other suggestions welcome.

    Rick, maybe not as neutral as the 2TRK return but close.
     
  5. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Mark,
    The PMI product would be way more affordable than the Manley, Boutique or Dangerous products. The Sebatron would be in the middle somewhere but with very high quality, however in the case of Sebatron and to a lesser extent PMI, these products are still just a thought.

    I myself use a Mackie SR24 for this purpose. I actually prefer it to any of the other Mackies because it has 6 aux sends on each channel with dedicated send knobs, not switchable ones for the 3/4 - 5/6 sends as all the other Mackies do. It takes up much less desktop space than an 8 bus does too! But it still runs out of head room when pushed too hard and in the heat of a tracking session with 16 inputs, having to watch the gain structure on the monitoring desk is just one more P.I.T.A. It would be nice to have something that could take it without the power supply "dropping the kids off at the pool". Unfortunately, I don't think there is any small mixer that is really up to the job unless an extraordinary amount of care is exercised.
     
  6. realdynamix

    realdynamix Well-Known Member

    :) Mark, in that case I suggest a 1202vlz, or 1402vlz Mackie, perhaps an older model, as I am not sure where they are being made these days.

    IMO, they are too transparent for my taste. I have a 3204 sitting in storage because it WAS way to clean on my synths. The little buggers will give you plenty of desk space for pizza and cool drinks. Too bad they don't make these anymore...
    Circa 1974

    Hope you find something cool!
    --Rick
     
  7. Clueless

    Clueless Guest

    I'm a new convert to the Midas Venice. For a small desk that's able to grow larger (8 mono channels + 4 stereo--you decide which half you want now and which half to grow into), you get EQ like you've never imagined on Mackie. A 160 will set you back $2400 from soundbroker.com, or I just saw one on ebay going for a starting bid of $1200:

    Midas on E Bay

    That's a screaming deal if you want to upgrade quality while downsizing.

    [ October 01, 2003, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: Kurt Foster ]
     
  8. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    That is a great deal on a Midas. I have wanted one of these mixers for a while now but starting at $3000, they are a bit out of my price range at the moment. I would like the 240, with 16 mono and 4 stereo channels. I was told by a person who said they worked for a sound company that he was going to arrange for me to get one on " loan" to review, but it never happened. It sure would have been nice though.
     
  9. tonio

    tonio Guest

    Hey Mark,
    You know I was looking in the same direction as you in the monitoring path. Its kinda funny I have a Spirit SX. The summing amp is said to be better than the Wackie which I believe, but the monitoring does leave more to desire. Something to do with the amps are lacking... heck you can't even have the cans and monitors on together. Guess they had to cut costs somewhere.
    I hear good things about the D2b, if thats in your budget, surely not mine. But I ned to upgrade the mixer anyway, so was thinking MIDAS.

    When the money comes in......

    T
     
  10. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Ah haa haa haa ! That is too rich! Wackie! I love it! :D haa haa haa snarf! chortle!
     
  11. realdynamix

    realdynamix Well-Known Member

    :) That is fine looking piece of gear, it would look great set flush into a desk, a couple of them would almost look like a NeoTek. Bet it's worth every penny.

    --Rick
     

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