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More W2K help, please.

Discussion in 'Recording' started by EdWray, Dec 5, 2001.

  1. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Opus 2000, I need your help. I'm trying for the fourth time to get Layla24 and Cubase 5.1 to work over W2K. Clean install, not upgrade on FAT32. Audio disk is formatted with the /z:64 switch.
    I have an ASUS CUSL2 mainboard. no onboard audio.
    1000GHz PIII
    10GB Quantum system disk.
    20GB IBM audio disk. Both 7200 RPM ATA100 IDEs on separate channels.
    512MB RAM

    I disabled the serial ports, switched to standard PC, disabled all of the network services, turned off the windows sound, switched the midi port to Layla24. Layla24 is all alone on interrupt 11.

    The duplex and the multimedia ASIO drivers sort of work but sound like $*^t. When I switch to the WDM driver, no sound at all.

    What am I missing? I believe you when you say that W2K is way ahead of W98 but would like to experience it myself. :confused:

    Thanks!
     
  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Hmmmm...when you say the sound sounds like $*^t..what do you mean exactly? Do you get crackles and pops? Distortion? Describe what your getting exactly which may help me to understand whats going on....also have you installed the latest version of the driver from Echo?
    Opus
     
  3. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Crackly sound. I'm using V.66 WDM and .64 on the console. I should be using the Layla WDM ASIO, right?
     
  4. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    What buffer size are you using in the Echo Control panel thru Cubase? Have you tried different settings? Making sure of course you have DMA on your primary and secondary controllers for the hard drives? Also putting PIO for the CDROM slaves?
    Yes...when I go into my device setup in Nuendo it gives me Echo WDM ASIO or something like that...I'll check when I get home tonight and let you know...I think there's something else and again, I'll need to check when I'm home
    Opus
     
  5. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    I didn't look at the controllers to enable DMA. I assumed that was on the physical disks in device manager and couldn't find the checkbox. I will make any changes that you can think of when I can get at the box. Where do I go to change to PIO mode for the CD-RW & CD-ROM slaves? Is that in the device manager tree under CD-ROM by chance?

    I think that I kicked the buffer size down to 256. I started with the default, backed it off a notch, tried again, backed it off again and also nada.
     
  6. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Under device manager there is IDE controllers..expand it and you will see Primary and Secondary controller..open each one up and look under Advance Settings. Make sure the Master on each one is set to DAM if Available and the Slave on each one is set to PIO...again, I'll do some researching tonight when I get home from work and let you know
    Opus
     
  7. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    I will stop by the studio tonight and make those changes. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if you post any more tweaks. I'll let you know if I can get that bad boy to work. Thanks for your help! :)
     
  8. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Sorry I didnt get back to you on this...I had a friend over last night to do some recording and got side tracked with that...I need to install Cubase to see if I can get that working with the Layla20 that I have..it should be prety much the same setup except for 24 bit recording.
    Opus
     
  9. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Hey Opus, you're the best! I'll be watching for your results. I will play with my PC later when I get home from my day job.
     
  10. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Well, I checked device manager and the settings that you suggested were already there by default. What now? If all else fails I still have the W98 sys disk ready to pop in, pnp. We're gonna record tomorrow, whatever. If you can figure out what I am missing that would make w2k work I would be very pleased. Maybe a copy of Nuendo? ;) Thanks again.
     
  11. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Well..Nuendo aint copyable with that key protect!! lol!!
    Nuendo would be a better route indeed!!
    I'm redoing my system as I type so I'll look into it when it's done...have you tried a different PCI slot? I'm baffled at this point...that usually doesnt happen often ya know!! lol!!
    One thing you might want to look into is to make sure UDMA is enabled in your BIOS!! I just noticed on my mainboard BIOS that it was turned off!! Doh!!! And I'm the computer mod too!! lol!!
    I'll let you know soon man..I promise!!!
    DONT GO TO 98!!!! thats worse!! lol
    Opus
     
  12. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    I was talking about the Nuendo copy that goes for $1K. Too bad I don't have a bag 'o cash laying around. Maybe next month.lol
    Geez, this is driving me to drink! :D Yeh, I would prefer to reformat the w98 disk to audio disk #2. I don't remember seeing the UDMA enabling option in the BIOS. I thought I checked everything there but I certainly could be wrong about that! I will check tomorrow when I go back to the studio. Anything else you come up with I will try.
     
  13. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Silly Question but you are on Standard PC mode right? Whats your memory configuration? In other words...how many sticks of RAM do you have..and are they in the correct order? Ya know..largest stick first then smaller afterwards? It is PC133 right? You have installed Service Pack 2 for WIn2k also right? Have you gne thru my optimizing doc on my website for Win2k?
    Let me know
    Opus
     
  14. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Memory? Two 256MB SDRAM PC133 sticks on slots 1 & 2. PC133 CPU. Service pack 2, yes. And no to the last question. I didn't know you had an optomization article. I was just piecing together info from the threads here. I think I will start over and follow your recipe. I noticed quite a few things that were different from my approach. I'll let you know the results.

    One question, you say to add the registry key EnablUDMA66. Should that change to EnableUDMA100 if the disk is ATA 100?
     
  15. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    AFAIK...No...it's a standard entry for turning on UDMA in a general sense..keep it at 66 and let me get back to you on that one!!
    Hopefully my document will sort things out!! You can alos go into google.com and type in Windows2000 tweaks and come up with tons of stuff to do!! Dont go into the really advanced stuff!!! My document pretty much goes over anything you need to do tho..good luck and let me know
    Opus
     
  16. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    OK, I was completely on the wrong track. I followed your recipe to the T and when I tried to play back one of the songs nothing! Just for the hell of it I tried recording a test. Low and behold stuff was coming out the monitors during recording. I tried playing it back. Nothing. Opened up the master mixer to check what the master bus was set to expecting to see 1 and 2. There was no 1 and 2. I reset to 3 and 4, changed the setting in layla console and viola, the sucky test played back. I opened a song and it played back. It was a ^#$%ing bug all along!! :D
     
  17. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Whew!!! Damn...that was a bitch now wasnt it!!! Well..happy recording and playing!!
    Opus :D
     
  18. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Opus FYI

    You can add the run-as service to the list of services that can be disabled in w2k. It's a great feature for network administrators that allows the technician to open executeables, setups, .cpl files, etc., without logging off the user during remote administration. You hit the alt key and right click the program to get the run-as option and can authenticate with administrator rights. A great time saver. Unfortunately for me we are still running NT 4 on the network I administer so we have to log the users off and log on as administrator. Hopefully next year they will upgrade to XP. We have already been informed that they are skipping w2k.

    Disabling this service will have no effect on audio.
     

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