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Most valuabe gear to have to achieve 60s garage tone?

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by alexthepirate098, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. For the last couple years i have been on a never ending quest to achieve that famous fuzz tone of the 60s garage bands such as the sonics, early stones, the kinks, the chesterfield kings. I guess the best representation of the sound would be a new band called the urges. I know that they cut their new album in an entirely vintage studio so im not expecting garage fuzz perfection but i wanna get in the ballpark. http://www.myspace.com/theurges[url... Thanks for the help, Alex
     
  2. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Unless you can find (and maintain) a good old tape machine at a great price, I don't see you using the recording chain to contribute much to this vibe in the price range you are talking about. There may be emulation plugins that would help, but I don't have any experience with that.

    I'd concentrate on getting the vibe you want live and making an accurate recording of that. If you are getting what you want live but not getting it on tape, I don't think you are going to improve the transfer by adding dirt to the signal chain.
     
  3. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    A garage would be helpful. Eggcrates filled with sand and carpet on the walls, maybe even a mattress or three. Build the room like they used ;)
     
  4. well the idea i had was that by replacing with something analog id be closer to the tape thing. or maybe thats just foolish. what about if i got my hands on a decent tape deck and used that and dumped the tracks to logic or something? i heard the white stripes did that for their first couple albums.
     
  5. antoniosolo

    antoniosolo Guest

    $.02 an old tube or solid state guitar amp and old drum set and old mics. Tape emulation plugins should get you close. We have some great programs at our disposal. That's what captured that sound along with garage acoustics.....I guess, I wasn't there.....
     
  6. Thomas W. Bethel

    Thomas W. Bethel Well-Known Member

    Vintage everything including the room.

    Get yourself a good tape recorder. Tube if possible (Ampex 350, 351) use old non high bias tape and let er rip. The reason the older stuff sounds like it did was because of what it was recorded on and what the equipment sounded like. A good Fender twin reverb http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Vintage-Reissue-65-Twin-Reverb-Guitar-Amp?sku=480505&src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=26039695, a set a Gretsch drums http://www.gretschdrums.com/, a Fender stratocaster http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Strat57PJLTD some vintage microphones and some vintage tube mic preamps and you can get yourself to sound just like the bands of old. It is going to cost you a bundle but if that is the sound you are after....I guess you have to pay the piper.

    All the plug-ins and vintage warmers are NOT going to give you that sound.

    YMMV and Best of Luck!
     
  7. AudioGeezer

    AudioGeezer Active Member

  8. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Emulations are simply....errr...emulations. NOT to be confused with reproductions.

    On thing you might try is recording in a large open space. An old warehouse with lots of natural echo. Close mic everything like you do and then use a number of room mics. Hunt for the optimum placements on these by walking about the area whilst listening to the sound as its being played.

    Mix these room mics in at your discretion. It will NOT be that garage sound simply because of the vast difference of the gear but it will give you something similar in ambience.
     
  9. well i think i've got the guitar sound covered, im able to coax a pretty vintage sound out of my my twin, vox and les paul. I think if someone could enlighten me on exactly how the studios tracked drums back then? was it just a room large condenser mic? and maybe some tips for getting a warmer vocal sound and if a tube pre might help. Im talking the vocal sound from the stones englands newest hitmakers or the animals or the sonics version of have love will travel where the mics sound like they are being slightly clipped.
     
  10. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    A simple mic set up will do it
    a good LDC and the 57's
    then the method as Dave has suggested

    to do the single LDC will require a sweet room and the sweet spot
    and this doesn't lend itself to edits and changes in the mixing later

    do what Dave says and get some good material on seperate tracks so you can work it later

    Beware
    as with the guitar tones
    ( simple small tubed amp with a 60's EQ and 60's guitar style )

    USE drum heads and drum techniques ala the 60s

    then use anything that will give a gentle overdriven sound
    here be careful
    LESS is MORE

    gentle driven sounds through the Tube Mics and Tube preamps
    Transistor preamps like the Neve
    and EMG can give nice driven tones ... or is that TG ?

    and the gain block units like the API can be nice but probably are little more open than the others

    what you don't have is the TAPE SATURATION (see Bob's comments)
    so you need to work around that and find the limiting and driven sounds with what you do have


    less is more
    and start with the tones and techniques of the 60's
     

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