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Multi-track recommendations ?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by dav, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. dav

    dav Guest

    Whats up guys, well this site seems pretty advanced for where i'm at but i'm just looking to get some demos up on Myspace sorta thing.

    ...what do you think about this BOSS recorder i'm thinking of getting.

    http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-BOS-BR900CD.html


    thanks alot for any replies.
     
  2. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Is portability an issue? For the price you could get yourself a firepod with Cubase LE.

    http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-PRS-FIREPOD-PAK.html

    For a little more scratch you could buy Cubase Studio 4 or one of the older versions (SL/SX 3). Personally, I would go that route. Reason being it's much easier to edit audio on a computer.

    Even SE would do for most hobbyists and it's dirt cheap.

    http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-STE-CUBSEVAP.html
     
  3. aqualand666

    aqualand666 Guest

    yes but its not easier if you are using cubase LE, which is easily the worst program i have ever used
     
  4. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    There's an old saying: " There are no bad roles........".
     
  5. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Hmmmm. Just thinking out loud here. Aqua is ......water....water is a fluid or a.....liquid...nah! Couldn't be.
     
  6. dav

    dav Guest

    Well the situation is: the pc is in a different room of the house than i'd be recording in... and there's other people living here that don't want to hear me playing my music and stuff... so yeah i'm looking to get a stand alone unit and do most of the work on it, including micing my guitar amp etc.

    ...thanks for the suggestions though.
     
  7. dav

    dav Guest

    I also didn't mention that i'm primarily going to be recording extreme metal and i have the sound i want so i probly don't need any effects or simulated sounds.

    Any other help out there... what about that BOSS i'm looking at... is it crap or what ?
     
  8. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Well if the boss is within your budget go for it. Truth is, people will stand behind ther purchases(generally.), so an opinion is only worth so much in that department. In the end the learning curve will be similar with most machines and when you're confined to a budget, you generally won't find too much difference between units in that same price range. It's not the gear after all, it's the ears(and what's between them) behind the knobs and faders.
     
  9. momchenr

    momchenr Guest

    To be honest, I think one of the better units out there right now, in terms of multitracking, is the Korg D888. It's got 8 simultaneous inputs, so if you already have a band or plan on later being in one, you'll be able to get an entire drumset in there without having to pre-mix. The thing that makes it really cool, for me, is that it has 8 simultaneous outputs on it... so its Input/Output situation is quite adequate.

    Better still, it records to a hard drive, which is going to be able to hold more data than a CompactFlash card will... talking 40gb on an HD, vs. around 4 gigs TOPS on CF cards...

    The only thing that you're losing out on is the CD burner. That being said, it does have a USB output on the back of it, so you can bounce mixed .WAVs to your computer for burning.

    I think it represents a better feature set for the dollar. The BOSS has more effects, but you've already said that those aren't as important to you. Just a thought.
     
  10. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    What don't I understand here? The computer is in another room. All these people in the house and there is only a single computer?

    You are into death metal and you don't want people to hear you while you are playing your stuff?? How is that possible? You live in an airtight bubble somewhere else in the house?

    You know, for the same price as this little toy recorder, you can certainly purchase yourself an affordable laptop with a decent audio interface for almost the same price? After all, you can't do your taxes or profit and loss, on the toy recorder.

    And here is this aqualand666 guy again with no experience telling us all how horrible a program like Cubase is. It's only one of the most highly respected MIDI programs on the market, that was later adapted to also include audio. Just because, you can't figure it out and it doesn't work for you doesn't make a bad program. Try another program. What are you 18, aqualand666?? I don't use that program either but then I don't do MIDI. I'm a recording engineer that records actual people with actual instruments. For people who want MIDI, they can provide whatever MIDI program they like to use. Hey! It's only been a recent thing that ProTools could do any MIDI!

    Riots R US
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  11. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Some good points here. Hard drive is definitely better than Flash mem.

    Check out Ebay for a used Roland 16track, I bet you could pick one up for cheap.

    In regards to the laptop thing, well that ould be ideal and personally, that is the way I would go but you have to make a decision that you're comfortable with.

    Regarding Aqualand666: ....what is there left to say? Liquid id as Liquid does. History repeating itself.
     
  12. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    And I think I'll have another Molson ale, since this is a Canadian site? Or is that a Foster's? Made by Molson? I like the Australian version better.

    I talk a good game when it comes to drugs and alcohol, don't I? I don't really do that much, I mean at all, but it used to be a prerequisite in both broadcasting and the recording arts and sciences, back in the seventies or is that sixties, eighties? No, it was the 1990s, I mean the 1890s? I'm getting really Timothy Leary about all this stuff.

    Whatever you do, just know, things go better with Coke.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  13. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    "Liquid is as Liquid does"...OMIGOD, I knew there was something about this guy's posts! Get the crucifix and the stake out!
     
  14. dav

    dav Guest

    hey that KORG D888 8 tracker looks pretty killer, i dont know why i would even need a 16 track since the korg has 64 virtual tracks and i can just bump em over.

    ...If i got a laptop w/good audio interface, i'd still have to get a mixer right ?

    Remy: i didn't say i didn't want people to hear my stuff, i said people didn't want to hear my stuff. lol ! ... and "extreme metal" can mean more than just death metal you know. 8)
     
  15. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I only mentioned the roland 16 track because I've used one. They're nice units.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLAND-VS-1680-VS1680-VS-1680-BEAUTIFUL-MINT-COND_W0QQitemZ160081222826QQihZ006QQcategoryZ41479QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    At $400 that's a pretty good deal.
     
  16. dav

    dav Guest

    That Roland looks good but if you check the sellers completed auctions, you'll see that he sold that item back on 1/23 in "EXCELLENT" condition. I guess the buyer backed out... but now it's re-listed in "MINT" condition !
     
  17. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    hrmf. Well, I'm glad you caught that. I've been burned on ebay before.
     
  18. JoeJoeMan

    JoeJoeMan Guest

    Dude,
    Check out the new Zoom multitracks coming out in a month or so, I guess they'll be in the $600 range for the 16 track, 80g HD, CD, USB, they act as stand alone units or PC controler and I guess they come with Cubebase software or something like that.
    PC recording or stand alone unit, it's up to you and what you've got in mind and your budget, that's your decission.
    but anyway, these are worth checking out. check the link below to find out more and you can ask questions on that forum.
    Folks even post sounds/songs there so you can hear what other people do with the gear.
    http://www.2090.org/zoom/bbs/viewforum.php?f=17

    PS: just go back up the forum links and you'll get to the other threads/post about other related stuff.
     
  19. The Fostex VF160EX Has 16 tracks, 8 can be recorded at once, and it has 2 effect processors for reverbs that don't sound too bad. Good features, built in CD-Burner, can be had for about $550 USD. I've been using one and with a few mics you can get pretty creative. Records at 16 bit 44.1 recording.

    Drawback- only 2 xlrs, so you'll need preamps or xlr to 1/4" adapters to record more tracks.

    Hope this helps- got mine for $450 new.
     
  20. bwmac

    bwmac Active Member

    About multi in/out

    Hay Remy
    What would be the best multi In, mixer or interface with fire wire for multitrack recording. I am thinking along the line of MOTU 828mkII or the onyxfirewire but it doesn't have to be those exact brands. any thoughts there.
    Like everyone I am on a budget but that's only because family first and at this point my home studio in not a business, but I can still save up as I hate to grow out of equipment.
    Thanks for your thoughts.
    Brad
     

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