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N/D868 - D112 - MD421 Kik Samples - Attention: Gertok

Discussion in 'Recording' started by bent, Nov 25, 2007.

  1. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    OK, I've posted the samples of the mics you were asking us about.

    Here's some info:

    Kick Drum:
    Tama 22"
    Beater Head: Evans (forget model)
    Reso Head: Factory (with non-factory hole)
    DW single pedal w/ felt (needs some TLC - it's rather noisy), no falam-slam on head.

    Mics: All in same position on low-boy stand with boom, just inside reso head hole, about a 45 degree angle towards beater.

    Recorded one at a time via Groove Tubes Vipre preamp, direct into Apogee AD8000 to single track in Pro Tools TDM 6.4.1

    All settings the same except fine gain on Vipre (Hi Pass off, Polarity Normal).

    Tracks are normalized, no other tweaking done.

    The song that's on this page with the samples is one I uploaded a while back, but the kick in it was recorded with the 868, no reso head on the drum, listen and you can see where that mic fits in a mix (not a rock song, though, sorry!).


  2. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Thanks! D112 sounds like the lowest out of all of them
  3. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Here's what I think of these three mics:

    421 - Sounds the most like Lars' kick, Lot of attack.

    D112 - Lot's of hi-mid, no lower definition.

    868 - Sounds like the kick in the beginning of Iron Man, plenty of low end.
    Not nearly as snappy as the other two...
  4. TheBear

    TheBear Guest

    thats my boy bent.

    it may be lower, but it also sounds more muddy and wont go as well in the entire mix to me :/

    but everyone wants different tones! so its cool.
  5. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    I wish I had a D6 to compare...
  6. TheBear

    TheBear Guest

    i wish i had many things bent

    like an ssl 9k console to compare to any neve console.

    but hey...not gunna happen.
  7. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    mmmmm.... 421 wins!
  8. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    My thoughts exactly!
  9. Jbrax

    Jbrax Guest

    +1 very well rounded...
  10. drstudio

    drstudio Active Member

    Try a Beta 91 in combo with an egg or 421, see what you think.
  11. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Don't forget 421 is twice as much in price ;-)
  12. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    i would have liked to hear a copy of that test with a beta91 as well.

    i do not have a drum kit in my studio or i would simply a/b/c it. anyone else want to do it?
  13. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    I might be able to swing that.
  14. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Bent, if you do get to that, please find an ATM25 for the lads. Everyone needs to hear that mic in comparison........Thanx mo-dogg-a-rator
  15. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    i would really like to hear this with a d6 as well. i'm so used to mine that i'm curious to see how it actually stacks up against beta91, md421, etc

    hey bent, you should go buy one at guitar center and return it a day or two after...
  16. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Oh bent why don't you go and try every single mic out there and post it here that would be great ;-) kidding &)
  17. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member


    In the words of Eddie Izzard "Well, we didn't expect there'd be such a rush!"

    I'll do the B91 / 421 tomorrow, and for the younger crowd: Samples of top / bottom mic with in phase / out of phase comparisons.

    Dave: I'll have to look hard and see if I can find an ATM25 - I'll PM you shortly...

    Rockstar: The only Audix mics I have are the D1, D2 and OM6.


    "You! Cake or death?"
  18. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    bent you're a hero
  19. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Hero like the current NBC show, or hero like the 80's show starring William Katz?

  20. Like the sandwich.

    Thanks for these samples, brother. We appreciate all the work you're putting into this.
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