I just saw the add for native tools in the latest issue of EQ. Nuendo packaged with Apogee a/d16 and d/a 16. I thought it was pretty similar to what opus used. I thought he used an apogee of some sort as an A to D converter. Maybe I was wrong about that. Say that reminds me, Opus, what were you using before Nuendo? Where you a Cubase user? I just downloaded their demo, and I think it is pretty cool. The screensets and such. I really like that they have dynamics already set up on all the channels. You know that I am not a pro, and really don't have clue as to how to correctly use compression, but I thought it was cool anyway. What do you guys think about Sonar, did it get left behind, with all these new upgrades? nuendo/sx, Logic 5. I know being first out the gate makes it easy for your competitors to come in and outdo you, how do you think they did with Sonar 2.0?