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natural sounding vocals - WHAT MIC, PRE AND CONVERTER COMBO?

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by sali, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. sali

    sali Guest

    I got a budget of 6K GBP ($12k) if i make use of interest free cred. I want to make some vocal recs of Indian Classical. (you can get an idea of voice on http://www.londonsiva.com recorded on AKG c414). I dig the vocal sound of Pete Gabriel's SOand he used a tube 47. SO, I figure I should get a tube 47 copy. I heard soundelux 47 is the closest but I havent tried one.

    the Best mic I tried was the BLUE CACTUS

    Now, I'm gonna need a pre and I think tubes might be the way. I heard the Sebatron vmp 2000 is good and cheap. But I'm willing to go up to 2K GBP if the sound gets better (ON VOCAL that is- I aint triyin to run an all round studio)

    Q3) WHAT PRE GOES best WITH THE tube 47 ???

    And just to prove im the ultimate new rookie, I need a converter too. I guess the quality of the conversion will be the more crucial factor , so I'm willing to pick the software to suit the converter rather than vice versa. I realise it might not sound like 2inch tape, but I want to get as close as pos.

    Q4) Which 2k converter is gonna give me the closest thing possible to real analog sound?? and what software works best with it. (yes I can run off a mac)

    Thaks guys 4 your precious time. I'll remeber you if I get famous. (If I dont get famous, U wont remember me so it wont matter.)

  2. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Distinguished Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    South Florida
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    Posting the same thing in three different forums is just annoying. I know...you want as many people to see it as possible so you figure you'll post to as many places as it might apply. It's a sound strategy, but annoying nonetheless.

    I wish I could give you some advice but my budget dictates what I use and I just can't afford one of those mics.
  3. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Sep 26, 2005
    It's not the preamp. It's not the microphone. It's not the analog-to-digital converter. It's the engineers experience, skill and talent. So you should take your money and perhaps enroll in a recording school?? Having A-B & C, will not equal the sound you want to get. You can get the sound you want on any kind of equipment you have, provided you know how to use it?

    So if you want to drop some $ or, pounds, I suggest Jenny Craig.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  4. sali

    sali Guest

    But Remy.............

    REMY, I was hoipng that By setting up my stuff as good as possible, perhaps with the help of a good engineer, Id have the ideal situation to record in. After messing around at my own pace and getting down the music as I want, the files could be sent to a remixer for them to liberally spray their talent on.

    Is this not a practical way of doing things? Do you really think it wont reap results if there's no engineer during the actual take? I mean how difficult can it be??????????
  5. pianojoe

    pianojoe Guest

    If you are not a recording pro with years of experience, you should use the money and hire one. Spending $12k on gear is overkill if you're not sure what you're doing, or if your rooms aren't treated acoustically. What's more, $12k will give you several weeks worth of recording sessions in a good studio.

    If you want to get some gear to learn and experiment, take it easy. It's more or less voodoo to find the right mic and the right preamp for the job, and what works for one singer might not for another.

    My favourite gear for recording my vocals is:

    Neumann TLM 49
    Drawmer 1960 preamp (it's not even a tube)
    Lake People A/D, hooks into the optical in of my Power Mac
    Logic Pro 7

    But then, that's just me.
  6. freesignal

    freesignal Active Member

    Mar 8, 2007
    Wow, how insulting. Although, it can probably be attributed to ignorance, but still. I don't know that I would trivialize someones career (hobby) choice when asking them for help or advice in performing an aspect of their job (hobby). This might not be the best analogy, but it's like a cop pulls you over for speeding. As soon as he approaches the car, you say "Cops are nothin' but Donut munchers!" and make other demeaning comments about him. Then you turn around and ask him for "just a warning" instead of a ticket. This is probably not the intention of your comments, but just be mindful that there are many people out there that are very passionate about music/recording/mixing/mastering, etc. To belittle that (especially while asking them for help) isn't cool. Just an FYI. As for the question at hand: I also agree that with your budget, it would probably be smarter to by a cheap interface, mic, and preamp. Use that stuff to record and figure out how you wanna do things, then just go to a professional studio and record everything at once. This way you get to take your time and figure out how you wanna do things, but then you also will be able to record with high quality equipment and in a appropriate environment. Plus, hopefully you can hire a competent engineer and send the tracks off to be mastered at a good mastering firm so that they can "liberally spray their talent on (it)," as you so simply put it. Sorry if I sound like a dick. I'm really not.
  7. bwmac

    bwmac Active Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    I agree with freesignal

    I agree with freesignal

    If you believe this "I mean how difficult can it be??????????"

    Then buy these;
    cut the tracks and they can then go to a studio if you want,
    or if it's good enough you can burn a CD.

    the recorder

    the mic

    cant get any easyer for under 2 grand
  8. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Distinguished Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    Silicon Valley
    Let the dude buy the guy gear and see for himself how complicated it is. Then when it doesn't work out as expected, people like me can snatch up his gear for a decent price when it is dumped on ebay.

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