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need HELP - recording of sax and trumpet

Discussion in 'Brass' started by musicsound, Mar 1, 2006.

  1. musicsound

    musicsound Active Member

    need HELP !

    during next weekend I have to record a sax and a trumpet (swing music) the first time in my life.
    Unfortunately I don´t have a seperate recording room and it will be quite difficult to get real control over the tone during tracking. Also intensive testing and trials might be difficult. Therefore I need to do it the first time right.

    Which preamp do you choose ?
    - Voxbox
    - Portico 5032
    - BG2
    - Earthworks

    Which microphone do you take:
    - Brauner VMA (the cleaner VM1 or the more Vintage A mode ?)
    - Neumann U 87

    What is the usual place and distance for a brass mike ?


    Please advise !
     
  2. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Personally, I would go with:

    BG2 or Portico (haven't tried the portico, but colleagues whom I respect dearly swear by them!)

    and I would go with:

    Beyer M130/M160
    AEA (any of them)

    Sorry - I wouldn't reccomend any of the mics you listed.

    J.
     
  3. You have nice gear. Why can't you audition it and see what you like best? Any one of those mics or pres would be great. It just depends what you're looking for.
     
  4. FifthCircle

    FifthCircle Well-Known Member

    Great set of preamps... The U87 can be a pretty good sax microphone. I'm not thrilled with either for tumpet. For swing style, you'll get great mileage out of ribbon mics or a really fat tube mic like the UM57 or U47. The Beyer 130 is a fantastic sax mic as well, but I'm somewhat less thrilled as a trumpet mic.

    --Ben
     
  5. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I absolutely agree with Cucco on the Beyer M160/130 HyperCardioid and figure of 8 ribbon microphones for Sax and trumpet. I think you'll find that the condenser microphones on those instruments will make them sound far too strident? An RCA 77 DX, would even be better but there you are dealing with something much more expensive and inavailability of used units.

    For the preamplifier's I would go with anything that Arthur Rupert Neve builds/designs, his stuff is wonderful!

    Have a great gig!
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  6. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    I LOVE my Beyers on any horns. I am PISSED with Remy for making me spend the $$$ on the 130 :wink: I wanted a new top for my Miata...

    Jim "Brass Mic? Aren't All Mics Made of Brass?" Mooney
     
  7. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    I LOVE my Beyers on any horns. I am PISSED with Remy for making me spend the $$$ on the 130 :wink: I wanted a new top for my Miata...

    Jim "Brass Mic? Aren't All Mics Made of Brass?" Mooney
     
  8. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    Oh moonbaby.... But now you can have more fun in the sun and still have a wonderful MS pair at the same time! You don't need no stinking top!

    Windblown (not in my microphones please)
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  9. musicsound

    musicsound Active Member

    Unfortunately I don´t have a chance to buy a ribbon mic on such short notice. But if I read the comments the tendency is in direction of recording coloured instead of vercy clean.

    I forgot to say, that I have a SM58 as well. But I thing the condensers are preferred ove the SM59 - right ?
     
  10. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    I wouldn't necessarily assumed the condensers would be better on saxophone and trumpet. I actually think your SM 59 would be better on sax and trumpet and help prevent things from getting too squacky or Blaty because the slightly bandwidth limited dynamic microphone will provide a smoothness hereto for unavailable in a condenser microphone. The dynamic microphone is also more impervious to surrounding bleed from other instruments like the drum set. I might also suggest for those instruments a large diaphragm dynamic such as an Electro voice RE 20, AKG D112, etc.. I've gone to this many times before and believe me what I suggest makes a lot of sense.

    Dynamically yours
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     

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