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need mic/pre suggestion...

Discussion in 'Recording' started by TPOR, May 29, 2004.

  1. TPOR

    TPOR Guest

    hey there, i hate this being my first post, AND probably the usual 'please choose my mic and pre for me' post. :oops: but hopefully this one is a little different.

    im helping a friend with a small home studio setup. "small" being a 12" powerbook and an mbox with PT LE.

    i suggested to upgrade his mic and pre from the current mbox pre and akg c1000(i think thats the model, but im pretty sure they are nice mics).

    heres the problem. he's only recording one type of instrument. native american flutes. but they arent your typical sounding ones, the ones his current engineer has been having difficulties trying to record is borders on the lines of a bass type flute, almost like a didgeridoo, but with higher fundementals but the same, if not more, searing overtones and harmonics.

    so i need to find him a mic/pre setup that has a wide range, and is nice and warm sounding in the hi freqs.

    also, id like to venture in the DIY category, so any good vintage stuff that would fit my problem make sure to suggest it!

    thanks for any help!

  2. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Nothing wrong with the MBOX mic pre for what he is doing compared to the C1000 which I find almost utterly useless. Spend the money on a REAL GOOD mic first.
  3. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    I would add that a large diaphragm mic would be better for woodwinds of any type. The sound of flutes, saxs, clarinets etc. eminates from more than one place on these instruments ... Small diaphragm mics focus in on a smaller area while large diaphragm mic usually have a wider pick up pattern. Large diaphragm mics also pick up low frequencies better than small ones do.

    The least expensive useable LD mic I can think of is the Studio Projects B1 at $99 list (less, street)

    Kurt Foster
  4. TPOR

    TPOR Guest

    thanks for the suggestions!

    what about an old Neumann style Tube mic. wouldnt that help warm things up a bit? or am i mistaken?

  5. BladeSG

    BladeSG Guest

    Nuemann make very impressive mics, (TLM 103 very nice budget Nuemann for vocals, I want one) but also very expensive.

    I really like the Rode NT2 and the CAD GXL2200 for acoustic guitars.

    For capturing bass heavy sounds I also like the CAD KBM-412 and AKG D112. These are more recognized as being Kick Drum Mics, but I've used them successfully on Bass cabinets and Keyboard amps.
  6. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Using a tube device is not the only or always the best way to warm things up. Often times a tube device can make things less warm. Warm has become an term and goal that is over used, over achieved and over abused. Work on getting your warm tone at the source with the musician, room and instrument and then work to capture that result the best way you can. In most cases with the exception of intended tube distortion, tube warmth is best when it compliments the source and not used as the soul source of achieving warmth.
  7. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    wise words indeed
  8. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    As Audio Gaff said, some tube mics can be bright ... The AKG C12 / C24 and C12a are all pretty "crispy" sounding.

    The CAD M9 LD tube mic is a cost effective mic that will add a bit of lower end "punch". I ran one of these mics through its paces at a friends studio and I was impressed with its performance. It comes with a mic clip and a shock mount in a nice carrying case, less than $500 street price ...

    Kurt Foster
  9. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    I also was meaning that too much tube warmth is no longer warmth at all and is something else all together which could even include being crappy, tubby, muddy or limp.

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