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Need Recommendation on a 'Shock Proof' External Drive

Discussion in 'Computers / Software' started by Guitarfreak, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Hello again. I am in need of a Hard Drive that is able to withstand high SPL and vibrations. Sounds silly, but it's a major annoyance. My current external drive, a Western Digital 7200RPM drive, can't deal with the volume level that I record guitars at. Putting foam under the drive doesn't help, I usually have to wrap it in a towel and then rest it on top of the foam. It's an annoyance and I would like to have a drive which didn't exhibit this behavior. I have heard a lot about Glyph drives. Would one of these be on the menu?

    The System is a Mac and I am running OSX Leopard 10.5.8 and Logic Express 9. I would prefer a FireWire drive to USB. AFAIK, my Mac only supports FW400.
     
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Get an SSD drive with a mini usb port in built. Also, why is your speaker up that loud? I know you've participated in the 1.2 bazillion threads that talk about small speaker for recording!!! ;-)
     
  3. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Is SSD a brand? I'm not the most up-to-date on computer tech.

    It's my new amp lol. My other amps sound best at relatively lower volumes, but the new one has to be turned up well to the point where it moves air and shakes things off of tables before it sounds appropriate. A slight inconvenience, but well worth it!
     
  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    solid state disk. There have been some decent sales on them lately. Get something in the last couple of generations as there was an improvement in random read/writes.
     
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    These are used in laptops/computers where reliability is a must....like an F-18 at Mach 2........no vibration there at all.
     
  6. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Thanks Jack. I did a little reading on the technology and it certainly seems that SSD is the way to go. A little product research shows that prices are off the map! Are there any Hard Discs which are protected against shock so that I can have a decent capacity as well?
     
  7. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Not with that kind of non moving part reliability. And you don't need that much room for recording. When you're done you simply transfer the files to a larger working drive. 64 gig ought to be more than plenty. I record six tracks of 88.2k/24 to a 60 gig hard drive on the HD24 for many many 75 minute concerts without running out of space.

    I have Glyph drives and other drive kits with some shock absorption but to be honest, I don't record in loud locations anymore so I don't know whether you can cause dropouts on a Glyph or not. I know you can't cause vibration drops if there are no moving parts to begin with.
     
  8. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    That's a great point Jack. I can always move the projects to my other drive for mixdown. Are there any specific lower capacity SSD drives that you recommend?
     
  9. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    I'm using OCZ and GSkill but they are a couple of years old. I'm daddy day care this morning and have a rehearsal this afternoon. I can nose around after that but basically any of these brands as well as Intel latest gen.should be ok once you get to at least midlevel.
     
  10. djmukilteo

    djmukilteo Well-Known Member

    GF:
    What about putting the HDD in a cabinet somewhere away from the loud vibration of the amp.
    Another thought is to build a suspension holder for the drive case itself with adequate air flow around it.
    I was thinking something like microphone shock suspension?
     
  11. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    It's a good idea. I've actually tried physically holding the HD in midair while reamping, but it always overloads when the loud part comes in. It seems to not be contact vibration so much as maybe air buffeting as I have found the only thing to really stop it is to wrap it in a heavy towel and then lay the HD and towel on absorbent foam or hold it in the air.
     
  12. djmukilteo

    djmukilteo Well-Known Member

    Hehe...that must be pretty loud!
    They make some round rubber rings that mount the HDD in four places to a frame...but it sounds like the sound waves are doing something beyond a physical vibration to the insides of the drive?
    What exactly happens to the drive?...is it a skip or something?
     
  13. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    You have no idea haha. I sometimes have to stop the recording and start it over again because something fell and made a loud THUD! I also have to wear hearing protection. Oh if only iso chambers didn't sound like 'iso chambers' on tape lol. It's worth it though. You only get one chance to get good sound, after the fact you have endless opportunities to regret not getting good sound. That's how I feel about it.
     
  14. pmolsonmus

    pmolsonmus Well-Known Member

    I've got a glyph that has optional rack mount ears. I've had no problems and I can't see why you would.


    Like this
    MXL 990-USB USB Powered Condenser Microphone

    They have them for single units as well.

    Phil
     
  15. mdb

    mdb Active Member

    Build yourself a spider isolation mount like the ones a microphone uses, but big enough for an external HD... a little wooden frame to hang it in using some fat rubber bands or something... a chunk of memory foam... suspend it in a Jell-O mold (kidding of course).

    Build an enclosure for that amp to isolate it a bit.

    Edit: Aaw, djmukilteo beat me to the mic isolation idea!!
     

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