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Discussion in 'Recording' started by Jon Best, Nov 19, 2001.

  1. Jon Best

    Jon Best Active Member

    Hey- I'm putting together a new win2k PC, and wanted some input on my choices so far- apparently I just hit some arcane multibutton function, and got kicked out, so it's possible you all will see the first half of a similar post- sorry, if so...

    OK, here's what I have. I was going to go dual PIII, but haven't seen a compelling argument that it's really going to net me much. From what I understand, Windows will not spread a single application across two processors. I may be wrong, however.

    Asus A7V266 mobo w/Athlon XP 1700 (at least)
    1G DDR266 ram
    Adaptec SCSI card
    Plextor SCSI CDRW
    20G IBM ATA66/7200 (OS & apps)
    *either 40G IBM ATA66/7200 drive
    *or (2) 18G UW160 SCSI 7200 drives
    Matrox G450 32meg Dual Head vid. card
    Floppy, CDRom, adequate cooling, etc.
    RME Hammerfall DSP/Multiface

    I will be running Samplitude and some sort of backup utility that can span CDR's (ideas?).

    I appreciate any thoughts anyone has on this setup... Thanks!
     
  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Win2k will run better and give you better performance as well with dual processors...in fact the OS was made for that application anyways. Yourplug-inswill love you for it!!
    Opus
    :D
     
  3. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    Go with the SCSI hard drive if you can afford it. I went ATA/100 with the new system I built, and I am now saving up my pennies to get the SCSI/160.

    Not sure about Samplitude, but my understanding with Cubase's latest version is that it *will* use both processors. Also from Opus' post above, it sounds like yourplug-inswill benefit from it. Finally, Opus made no reference to the chipset on your dual-processor mobo, although he warned me away earlier from using the Intel i820 chipset (for dual PIIIs). Lots of problems I guess. I am not sure what is on the mobo you listed, but I am *sure* that Opus would've chimed in if was not up to par.

    Best of luck!

    DH
     
  4. SonOfSmawg

    SonOfSmawg Well-Known Member

    Wellll...the Asus A7V266 uses a VIA chipset. There are a lot of "issues" with using VIA chipsets with audio, so MAYBE he missed something(?). Plus, I read recently that the AMD chipset is being phased-out. A lot of system builders are now using the Ali chipset based mobos, and LOVE them. How is it for audio apps? I wish I knew the answer to that. Anyway...check this out...
    http://
    ...with this...
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    ...and this...
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    ...and for your OS and apps, see model # IC35L020AVVA07 here...
    http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/d120gxp/d120gxpmod.htm
    ...and then CHECK THIS OUT!...
    http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/ultra/ul36z15.htm
    ,,,and cooling...Alpha PAL8045U...buy here...
    http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/ultra/ul36z15.htm
    ...and see this Antec SX1040(B)...
    http://www.antec-inc.com/product/cases/sohoser.html
    Hope some of this helps....
     
  5. Jon Best

    Jon Best Active Member

    Well, I *could* use the Tyan Tiger mobo for dual Athlon MP's, and I think Intel has come out with another multiprocessor chipset (840?), but I understood that win2k would assign processing to seperate processors *by program*, i.e., it's only really faster with multiple apps open. If this is mistaken, then great- multiprocessor system it is. Any recommended combos?

    Originally posted by Opus2000:
    Win2k will run better and give you better performance as well with dual processors...in fact the OS was made for that application anyways. Yourplug-inswill love you for it!!
    Opus
    :D
     
  6. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Some of the Via chipsets arent bad..some are just unpredictable on whether they will allow you to work efficiently or not. If you configure the board correctly along with your system it "should" work just fine. Yes AMD chipsets are horrible to say the least for audio..as for new chipsets such as the Ali...wouldnt go that route personally! Chipsets do work..but for audio they are completely different in specs. Any computer store that I talk to say that I dont know what I am talking about..I then tell them, well do you do Audio DAW system tech support? they say no..I say ^#$% you then!! ha ha ha ha!!!
    Anyhue...With AMD you are stuck with AMD or Via chipsets..Intel, every one but AMD!!
    Dual processors work with any app and is not just meant for multiple app workloads..it's meant for multiple processing..whether it is one app or two..
    To me Tyan is a no no!! It's too narrow minded of a board..you have to have a specific brand of memory and a specific model power supply..brings prices higher that way! Asus and Abit are the best choices for audio systems..hands down.
    I've heard great responses from the board mentioned in your setup..as far as dual AMD...not sure yet..
    Opus
     
  7. Jon Best

    Jon Best Active Member

    So, any suggestions on an Intel based multiprocessor motherboard? I'd like to go with RDRAM or DDR, which I think leaves me with the Intel 840 chipset. Can't seem to find many choices for mobos.
     
  8. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    "but I understood that win2k would assign processing to seperate processors *by program*, i.e., it's only really faster with multiple apps open. If this is mistaken, then great- multiprocessor system it is."

    Actually W2K in multiprocessor mode is designed for multi-threaded apps. The threads are subprocesses within the application that W2K assigns to one processor or the other making the app much more efficient than it would be in single processor mode. Very cool for recording. Not all applications are designed to be multi-threaded.
     
  9. EdWray

    EdWray Active Member

    Check out this link for dual p3 mobos:
    http://www.8anet.com/index.ihtml
     

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