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New to Recording

Discussion in 'Recording' started by daflyindutchman, May 12, 2008.

  1. hello everybody,
    im looking to set up a home studio, and i honestly dont know what to do. i would appreciate it if you guys gave me ideas on mics, programs, speakers, and everything else.

    thank you very much
     
  2. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    No idea about what?

    What to get?
    How to put it together?
    How to use it?
    What you want to do with it?

    In any event, go:here.
     
  3. basically all of the above,i know the basics, but thats just lessons from procare on logic express, really i dont know anything.
     
  4. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    run in the other direction, save your money for more pressing issues like keeping a roof over your head.
     
  5. im still in high school, im getting an internship at a recording studio, i just want to set somthing up.
     
  6. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    still applies...but good luck with your venture.
     
  7. pleasureohm

    pleasureohm Guest

    What kind of music are you going to be recording? That would help determine your initial equipment.
     
  8. Greener

    Greener Guest

    Get a cheapish external USB sound device. I use my laptop, an Edirol UA-25 and a Behringer AU$60 mic to record my bands jamb sessions (just so we can listen back to review our stuff). The software sonic LE that came with the Edirol is easy enough to use. Granted one mic recording drums and 3 guitars is rather useless. I can record single tracks at a time that have bugger all noise and a good clean sound so given alot of time I can create proper sounding tracks for all the instruments individually and put it together on the laptop later.
     
  9. mhutch

    mhutch Guest

    I think most of us here probably started out the same way. Spend awhile (for me it was a couple years) thinking/researching/reading recording mags/looking at gear online and reading reviews.

    Eventually you get an idea of what you might need to record your music. For me, it was about 9 years ago and since I was a high-school student like yourself and didn't have a lot of cash, I bought a PC, a Audiophile 24/96 sound card, a cheap little B^$#%$'er mixer, and a Rode NT3 off a friend. And you know what, I'm just upgrading now.

    What I'm trying to say is that if you want to record music you find a way to do it. I just bought a old Tascam Portastudio 246 for kicks. Even that can sound pretty cool on it's own.

    Something to record on, and someway to get the sound in there. That's a good start.
     
  10. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Forget usb.

    Take it out of your vocabulary.

    Computer peripherals is about all you can trust this protocol with.
     
  11. Greener

    Greener Guest

    What's your beef with usb2.0?

    Streaming digital information through usb is bad why?
     
  12. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Bad is a term used for correcting puppies and wayward children. Beef is not suitable as an interface and bad beef is just not healthy.
     
  13. Greener

    Greener Guest

    My apologies for using a colloquialism or two.
    As for proper English, your use of "not" like a Boolean operator for "suitable" and "healthy" is just uncool.
     
  14. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Nothing wrong with usb if you are recording single tracks at a time. Anything beyond that is debatable. Tascam has a USB 2.0 interface that, apparently, is capable of multitracking 8-16 tracks at a time. Personally, I would go to firewire for that but I would rather be cautious than optimistic in that regard.

    Going to be interning right out of highschool? Must be nice. Go get yourself an M-Box mini and you're set for software and hardware. Get the best set of near field monitors you can afford and a Shure SM57. That's enough to get you started. Make sure you watch the tutorial DVD that comes with the M-Box.
     
  15. Greener

    Greener Guest

    When I bought the Edirol I was weighing up weather to spend the $150 more to get the Mbox for pro-tools, inserts and firewire.
    I don't have anything to insert into an insert, Pro-tools records a single track at a time exactly the same as Sonic and my processor has enough grunt to run my usb to full potential read and my PATA HDD to write to.
    My Behringer XM8500 mic costs half that of the Sm57, and I can't tell the difference between them on _any_ of my friends stereos. I can with my Sennheiser HD-600's but not with my HD-220 pros.
    With a good headphone preamp (the edirol is good enough but I've heard better) and the HD-600s you will hear everything.
    If you're on a budget then you're already in trouble. Just get the basics down. save the tracks if it's any good get it mixed and mastered on something better in the future. Learn the art of proper recording spend the cash you save on books, tutorials and sessions with engineers in studios and lessons with instruments.
    If you have the skills and the knowledge, then in the future someone else will pay for the premium hardware.
    Just one persons opinion btw. :p
     
  16. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    I do not trust usb Mr. Greener and as a protocol I think a user will outgrow it sooner rather than later. Issues can arise that, without proper understanding, can plaque the experience. Usb depends on the computer to make decisions and as more devices are added, more problems can arise. If too much information is being sent to the computer and a collision is pending who is to say what device will get priority? Audio drops happen and noise becomes an issue and the user doesn't even realize what is going on and where to begin taking steps to correct this.

    Sure, for one or two tracks this may be fine. And I do not remember calling you out but simply stating usb is not a starting place for A/V. Well, maybe I was wrong. I suppose a school child with a Parents CC would have to look at the low cost that usb provides. But rather then start at the bottom, why not find a middle ground that one can grow from?

    I understand from your previous post you are quite the lexical technician so please correct my impoverished scribblings as you see relevant ;)
     
  17. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't call an MBox premium. It is as basic as they get. There are other solutions. Presonus Firebox is nice also. In the end, you get what you pay for. You can spend on the cheap gear if you wish but you'll just end up spending more when it breaks down or when you've realized it was a poor choice.
     
  18. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Incidentally: I've used plenty of usb devices without any problems. No, they won't multitrack and that's ok if you're just recording yourself for now. If you're on a budget that's fine too. Don't put yourself into debt over a learning tool. If you're going to end up in a studio anyway, you're home audio gear won't be the main focus.
     
  19. Greener

    Greener Guest

    My small laptop satchel contains;

    Asus a8js laptop (It's expensive but I wanted to play games too, you can get dual core stuff for less).

    power supply and lead (it causes horrendous ground noise when playing back through 99% of amps even through the edirol so play back is only 1.5 hours battery time but recording is infinite on AC(problem can be fixed see {old-link-removed} )).

    Behringer xm8500 mic (cheap and not nasty).

    mic lead (Got it free with the Edirol, twisted his arm I did).
    Sennheiser Hd 220 pro headphones (Again cheapish and not nasty. I like the extra bass goodness and comfort fator, plus they're indestructible, cables disconnect, ear pieces disconnect all round winner).

    Usb cable (came free with a printer).

    Edirol Ua-25 external USB2.0 (cheap and not nasty)

    All this is a small bag means I can record what improv sessions we play anywhere or set up and record individual tracks in a good sound space and create finished products slowly.
    Also this bag of stuff is enough for me to record things for other people for money. Alot of commercial recordings are just some dude with one mic a preamp d2a and a DAT recorder. Symphonies, Live rcordings of events of all types only on one track. Just Advertise you can do it and people hire you... Funny huh.
     
  20. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Yes sir, funny.
    I have come to understand that "recording gear" and "recording studio" are interchangeable in use. But didn't the OP say "im looking to set up a home studio,"?

    Or are you the original poster? In any event, your happy with your gear and you should be. Your making some extra coin and that's always a good thing. I believe ya. I believe the usb, as you say, 2.0 is valid. It works...far out!!!!

    What you are doing now is something that always gets me in predicaments.

    Your talking too much.

    You've said your piece but now your throwing in trash like "Alot of commercial recordings are just some dude with one mic a preamp d2a and a DAT recorder. Symphonies, Live rcordings of events of all types only on one track. "


    Now run along and go see if you can make yourself useful somewhere.
     

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