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noisy tracks

Discussion in 'Recording' started by klangart, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. klangart

    klangart Active Member

    I got noise and humming on my tracks, recording guitar.
    Usually I always recorded directly into the computer, without any side effects.

    Here is the set up and what I do.

    A Mesa Boogie Mark V amp, on a stand, and a clean channel, no effects or reverb.
    The van is off. Quiet amp.

    I have two mic`s working. A Sterling 55 and A SM57, very close to the grill.
    25 ft Magomi cables.

    A Focusrite Saffire 24 interface.

    A Mac and Logic pro 9. Away from the amp.

    I tried a Gibson classic and a Gibson custom.

    The room isn't tuned, bedroom studio. No noise .

    But its totally hearable , and using EQ means I loose a lot presence.
    I play lots of jazz, that works actually good, but some song require more clarity.

    Would a mic preamp help ?? I mean a bit of a bigger version than the saffires

    any ideas?

  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Post a sample of the noise.
  3. klangart

    klangart Active Member

    I think its my amp, just went with my ear directly infront of the speaker, Hum and Hiss.
    Not noticeable otherwise. Tubes are new.
    The mic`s probably pick up the noise, well. Will check tomorrow.

    btw, der Teufelshund , not Teufelhund.
  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Actually, no. This was title given by the German soldiers of WWI to the Marines at Belleau Wood and has been used since as a pseudonym for US Marine. Bastardized if you will. Somewhat appropriate.
  5. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    ps-I fully acknowledge the actual German proper Teufelshund(e).
  6. mdb

    mdb Active Member

    Stick a noise gate onto the channel strip in Logic and cut it out so it won't be noticeable during silences in the bounced file. Hopefully there's enough headroom during the musical portions that it won't be audible.
  7. klangart

    klangart Active Member

    its the amp, clearly. I put some isolation infront of the speaker, bit better now.
    The noise gate probably does the rest, thanks for mention that.

    Teufelshund, haha.
    It might be right according to some historic books, but, I am German, from Osnabrueck, 2 hours below Hamburg, been in the US for 16 years now. Never heard teufelhund.
    My wife is Australian, I try to teach her German, but its strange, it changes all the time from he to she and past and so on.

    maybe another topic
  8. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    LOL. Your English is better than my very rusty German to be sure. It's funny, once I was fairly fluent in German but it is only sometimes there now and rarely completely correct. Marines come up with all kinds of traditions whose origins are sometimes spurious. Even when we know they aren't quite 100% accurate the legend ends up more important than the fine details! Thanks for humoring we Leathernecks (which is 100% accurate).

    I'm not sure I ever visited Osnabruck but I have been to Dusseldorf, Detmold, Hannover, Bremen, and Kiel. Not as an employee of the US Gov't. I was just a musician then.
  9. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    In the past 28 years, I've been married to 2 German born and bred partners. One day they were trying to explain to "Oma" what I did for a living. Grandma wasn't quite comprehending. I don't speak German even though I've been there but I do read the back of Deutsche gramophone records. So I looked at grandma and said " Tonmeister". Grandma immediately responded with "Ach! Tonmeister!" Problem solved. I did enjoy learning the term "Dunkel Hefe' Wietzen" especially when I was in Bavaria.

    Boy you guys have great hotdogs over there!
    Mx. Remy Ann David
  10. klangart

    klangart Active Member

    detmold haha, thats maybe 25 miles from Osnabrueck, bremen is an hour
    drive north , Autobahn speed. There was the famous hyde park in osnabrueck.
    You might have stopped there, always good bands. Than the city closed it down.
    drugs and rock`n roll.

    Bavaria, well, the north and the south. I heard they drink buckets of beer for breakfast.
    But yes, landscape is beautiful.
  11. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    No, Alter, ... we are much more sophisticated, these days..
    For Breakfast we each have a fresh 50 liter beer barrel near us on the bench, all connected to a central CO2 supply for fast refills of our enourmes beer mugs. Smoked deers and elks are hanging in whole from the sealing and the bread is always freshly baked by Osnabrueck slaves who tried to sneak into Bavaria for a better living..
    Poor sods... , but then... the Hamburger are much worse off... They do duty in our public lavatories.
    My Mam is from Rendsburg..I actually love the "Fischköpfe" and fought many battles in Northern pubs.. Some I won...
  12. klangart

    klangart Active Member

    good one, lol.
    have not heard fischkoepfe in a while.
    This platform turned into a social network. Big bucks ahead ???
  13. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    We are breast feeding a lot of recording and studio newcommers with information and hints, all the time.
    Why not keeping it human and humorous, once in a while...lol.. Taking things seriosly without being too serious...
    Is this a contradiction? If so, I am a walking talking one...lol
  14. klangart

    klangart Active Member

    its night time in germany now. you should sleep if you are in munich.
    anyway, I have send an email, requesting your rates for mastering.
  15. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    Its been a 14 hours studio day with a 15 minutes lunch break doing videoclips ( young director project ) for the academy I am docent with.
    I need some time to spin down the old turbine or I keep rotating in bed..lol... but tomorrow is off....definitely... unless.....nooohh!
    Nightynight..all.. seeya tomorow....
  16. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    He's got to come up for air and a schnitzel once in a while.
  17. Big K

    Big K Well-Known Member

    I have a FLUX capacitor build in.
    I run on anything, except Antimatter, .. gives me winds...lol...
    Schnitzel are fine, I had pork chops, yesterday.
  18. zeke957

    zeke957 Active Member

    i have question. If you put isolation in front of speaker. do you not need to up the gain to get better signal, thus allowing for more hum??? just a question.

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