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Discussion in 'Recording' started by stickpile39, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. stickpile39

    stickpile39 Active Member

    Been recording our 3 piece (drums, bass, guitar) through a Behringer MX2004a Mixer on to a Stand Alone CD unit. Overall satisfied with the quality considering but would like to maximize it as it is inconsistent. I am open to any suggestions on improving the system for short $$ without converting to a computer system.

    5 mics on the drums
    1 mic on the guitar amp
    1 mic on the bass amp
    There is a stand alone PA system that gets mic'd and pumped into the mix

    I have been learning and experimenting with the Gain and EQ levels on the mixer with variable success. Have also been manipulating the position and distance on the amp mics.

    Overall hoping for a cleaner sound. One issue is muddy vocals. I dont think a mic in front of the PA through the mix is a good solution for the vocals, but if we run the mic direct to the mixer we have trouble hearing it during the recording.

    Wondering what suggestions you all might have for us? mic spiltter, double mic (one to the recording and one to the PA) Are there ways to manipulate the mixer to leave the PA out all together?

    Any general mic'ing suggestions for the amps and/or the drums? Trying to get a little more warm and clean

    thanks,
    JJ
     
  2. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    What PA mixer do you have? In most cases it should be possible to use the PA like normal while taking a line out from it.
     
  3. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    Muddy vocals is evidence of a bad recording space, invest some time to research room treatment.
     
  4. stickpile39

    stickpile39 Active Member

    the PA is a carvin z 55761 (ancient I know)

    There must be a way to send vocals to the mixer, capture the mix for the CD and then the vocals out to the PA. At that point the PA is out of the recording and we can adjust accordingly?

    can anyone help with how to do this with the behringer mixer? aux sends ?
     
  5. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    In this case it could just be evidence of micing the PA speaker instead of taking a line out.
     
  6. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    I can't find any info on the Carvin. Can you list the outputs it has?
     
  7. stickpile39

    stickpile39 Active Member

    thanks for the reply. Here are the outputs:

    master
    echo monitor
    powerslave 1-4
    Speakers
     
  8. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    Are you putting everything into the PA or just vocals? If it's just vocals, and your other mics go straight to the Behringer mixer, then you should be able to take the master output to a channel on the mixer. But without more info on the Carvin I can't be sure. Photos of the Carvin's I/O connectors and labels would help.
     
  9. stickpile39

    stickpile39 Active Member

    this is what I did, one of the outputs was not working. I found one that is.

    thanks
     

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