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Ok Just got a presonus firebox...

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Guitarfreak, Mar 4, 2009.

  1. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    umm...first off, in Logic I'm not able to set the box as my recording device AND use my computer's headphone jack as a monitor? I need to use the boxes headphone jack?

    I just recorded two guitar tracks DI and panned one left and one right. One didn't work, I panned it left and it worked. Panned it back right, and it was silent. IDK I'm scratching my head over here.
     
  2. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    "I need to use the boxes headphone jack?"
    Unless you want massive latency, yes. (It might be possible, but why?)

    All you need a 1/4" TRS jack with a 1/8" TRS input.

    Also, it sounds like you have balanced connection issues.
    No, err... Umm...
    Mono summing. Ugh, not sure actually.
    But you could well just be listening to the output in mono.
    Did you set the recording track (and all other relevant parts) to be stereo?
     
  3. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    For the monitoring thing, I should have clarified. I don't mind "tracking" with headphones, but to either have to disconnect the box or change the device in prefs to mix through my monitors sucks. I was wondering if there was some way around it.

    Yes I set the track to stereo. I also had the I/O default to input 1+2 and output 1+2. Should I have chose something else? There were only buses as other options.
     
  4. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I have this thing cranked up with my mic plugged in and the input level in my DAW is still weak. WTF. This can't be, in the manual it says it has a possible level of +55 dB for XLR connections. I don't have it quite at 11 because it squeals like a pig, but damn close, and I still need to boost it quite a bit within the DAW.

    I am using an Audix i5. Has anyone else that has used this encountered such a lack of sensitivity? Or is it some other variable that I am overlooking?
     
  5. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    GFreak wrote:

    " I just recorded two guitar tracks DI and panned one left and one right. One didn't work, I panned it left and it worked. Panned it back right, and it was silent. IDK I'm scratching my head over here."

    Its not clear what you are doing. Are you recording two guitar tracks at the same time or one after the other??

    By the way, Never set the track to stereo if you are not using a true stereo track into the DAW. Always use a mono track if recording a mono source such as a mic. If you are using a stereo mic you must make sure both channels are getting input before you record.

    When you set the track to stereo you enable the DAW to receive a stereo track. When you pan it simply pans within the stereo track. It does Not pan a Left channel into a right one, only a mono track will allow you to pan the source where you want it.

    Hang in there,
    jamm
     
  6. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    First things first. Read the manual. When you've exhausted that resource, then come and ask your questions. Most of us don't own that particular box. Each interface has it's own settings.
     
  7. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    All vocal tracks are mono? Guitars too?

    EDIT: Yes I have finished reading the manual, it does not say much. And I'd presume that when someone clicks on a topic that has a product name in it that they know something about it :D
     
  8. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    Have you read the Logic manual?

    That thing is about as big as 3 Bibles.

    Good Luck.

    I would assume it's all in there.
     
  9. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    All manuals have an index. An index points to specific topics. Two and two. Put them together.

    Guitarfreak: you have posted simplistic question after simplistic question. You claim to have studio experience and yet don't have even the simplest concept of signal flow.
     
  10. robcranmer

    robcranmer Guest

    Here,Here!!!
     
  11. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Well...I do not know much about gear. All/most of my questions have been gear or products related. I do however have DAW experience, and pride myself for being able to make good quality recordings with $0 worth of recording gear.

    Last time I checked it was an open forum.
     
  12. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    No reason to get all defensive. It's just most of your questions you probably could have figured out on your own if you really wanted to that bad. This stuff isn't rocket science. At least until you get into acoustics and electronics and microphone theory and advanced signal flow and oh yeah, physics.

    :lol:
     
  13. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Yeah true, I probably could figure them out on my own, or with some internet resource like wikipedia. But I feel a lot better getting organic answers from professionals themselves.

    And yeah sorry, I'm grumpy when I wake up :)
     
  14. FlyBass

    FlyBass Active Member

    I don't know if it says this in the manual, but in Logic you cannot change the gain of the incoming signal from the FireBox. Therefore you must make sure the signal is right where you need it to be on the FireBox as it is recording.

    After the track is recorded you can change the gain during playback or as part of the mixing process.

    Do you understand the use of the FireBox? There is a control panel that will boost your inputs by +12 dB. I have no experience with the PreSonus FireBox Mixer software, but that could also be your problem.

    Use the headphone jack on the FireBox to monitor, again, that Mixer software might control that function.

    I use a PreSonus FirePod and Logic 7 with no issues with monitoring, tracking or recording.
     
  15. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    The best way to learn is by doing. Sure, you could get your answers here but what happens when things go awry in a month or six months. Will you remember or will you have to ask again?

    I am a firm believer in manuals. That's how I learned Cubase (that manual is pretty thick too and that's not including the PDF manual which is some 400 pages alone.) and in turn Tracktion, Logic, ProTools and Acid all came easily to me. They are all based on the same or similar concepts. Particularly in routing. You're not going to have someone hold your hand through things for the rest of your life. Start helping yourself now and you'll thank yourself for it later.
     
  16. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Previous question:

    Yes, all tracks are mono.
    Unless you're recording a stereo outputs from a keyboard for example.

    Panning a stereo track basically lowers the volume of a track on it - pan left and it reduces the right volume, etc.
     

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