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one pre to rule them all

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by frob, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. frob

    frob Well-Known Member

    okay this has been asked and reasked so here it goes agien.

    what is your SM57 of mic pres? and why?

    im not looking for a definitve this is all you ever need to own answer. im looking for if all else fails i use this and at least it doesnt sound bad, not nesseraly the first choise but the last.
     
  2. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    i'd go with the mackie's vlz pres...
    for what is told they sound cool for it's price!
     
  3. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    Any good Neve clone
     
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    The Amek / Neve System 9098 is a good all around pre that seems to work well on almost all sources, it has a wonderful EQ as well ... The Sebatron VMP's are nice on almost everything too ..
     
  5. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Focusrite Red, API 512, Vintech x81, Neve 1272, Evil Twin DI, Neotek Mic Max.

    Why? Because they offer me great tone, great flexability in tone and the most contrast in tone to one another.
     
  6. djui5

    djui5 Guest


    umm..have you ever used one?
     
  7. djui5

    djui5 Guest


    Why a clone?...why not the 1073?
     
  8. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    when i said the mackie's vlz and when we're talking about the sm 57 i assumed price is a must!
    i think we can't talk about a cool pre and it costing around 5000$! of course everyone loves pres so expensive... neve's and so one... but i think the main topic here is something that is cheap like the sm 57 and yet it produces convincing results!
     
  9. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    Because there's no way I'll ever afford one ;)
     
  10. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    The Focusrite Red would be my singular choice of all-around-never-do-any-harm mic pre...much as an SM57 will do for micing a source..

    assuming theres not a price-point to this question/premise...

    if affordable/cheap is to be the tickett then an ART MPA will never do you wrong....ever.
     
  11. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Not so "cheap" (i/e: inexpensive) but an absolute best "bang for the buck" mic pre (at $281.25 per channel) is one I have been ranting about here for a while ... the JLM TMP8.

    Both Dog and Gaff have mentioned the Focusrite "Reds". The TMP8, a transformer balanced OP AMP design, is a nod in that design direction and is much like the Red Range and the API pres in both approach and results. Dog heard one here at my place last year and agreed that it sounded quite a lot like an API (check out Dave's mic comparisons at the Reviews forum).. with the same aggressive quality and big low end the APIs are reputable for.

    I just received word that the new version of the TMP8 is now ready to roll off the production line and will be shipping soon. A new feature is direct inputs for guitar/bass on 2 channels and line inputs across all 8 channels. I should be getting one for a re-review soon and I am looking forward to it. This one will be staying in the rack this time, even if I have to pay list + 20% for it! I liked it that much. You can see the review on the TMP8 if you CLICK HERE
     
  12. heyman

    heyman Guest

    Kurt, best all around pre in your mind- Great river Mercenary edition? Your thoughts?
     
  13. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    I am sure there are pres that would fit that discription, that I haven't even heard, so I would be reticent to say any pre is the best all around ... I am not the right person to make that call.

    The pres I like the most are either already in my rack or on the way (now):mrgreen:
    VMP4000e, MP2NV, TMP8, the system 9098's and the ORIGIN STT-1.

    With these preamps, the bases are pretty well covered, IMO but what I do and what others do can be different. I would not recommend my front end rack to say for instance, Ellegard because he does classical recordings on site ... and for that he would need some HV-3 's or something along those lines.

    The pres I like are what I think are best for rock and other "pop" styles of production.
     
  14. frob

    frob Well-Known Member

    okay price is a point but not the point. the point is the sm57 is in or should be in every studio at least one. i dont want a cap of $100 or something because i think that limits it to mutch, i think that you guys are dong do to anser the question. the main point is to avoid the speciality that is in ; ' i need a pre that does this sounds like this for this mutch? ' i could do a search and yeald those results. but i couldnt find any discussig a gerrally great pre that they use.
     
  15. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    I'd submit the John Hardy as the mature, all around SM57 or mic pre's. Affordable, clean, clear, slightly/lightly colored in a nice musical way, and you'd have a VERY hard time finding someone that does not like it or would refuse to use it on any source.
     
  16. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    The $400- Groove Tubes "Brick" has been giving me low budget smiles lately... and the FMR Audio RNP for $475- would be my contenders for the SM-57 of pre's, the Toft ATC-2 would be my choice as the best >$1k channel strip.. as always, YMMV
     

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