Patty Griffin Flaming Red, HOW???

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by mukshoe, Dec 15, 2002.

  1. mukshoe

    mukshoe Guest

    Hey i just wanted to ask you heavy guys (bill, don, mike, etc) what you think of the Patty Griffin cd Flaming Red and the mastering job....wow, it is screaming.....i am mixing some demo tunes for a girl and the production on it is somewhat like the flaming red stuff,.....wonder if you guys can hear what he did on this....serious comp and heavy in the vocal range of frequencies...is that more mix or what...take a listen too it ....it rocks...
    oh yeah, done by george marino.......
     
  2. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    mukshoe,

    I haven't heard the CD but without hearing the 2 track master there's no way of knowing what the mastering engineer did.

    Joe
     
  3. mukshoe

    mukshoe Guest

    really, can't you imagine where it would have come from based on the final image.....i mean it is kicking.....i highly recomend it for a listen.....great songs,, perfect recording voice and heavy....cheers mark
     
  4. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Joe is right, without hearing the 2 track master, it's really hard to tell. Generally if something ends up sounding really good, then it had it to begin with, maybe just too dark or too bright but it was well recorded. I'll pick it up and give it a listen.
     
  5. joe lambert

    joe lambert Distinguished Member

    No way of knowing who did what. You say the low end is kicking. For all Know the low end was fine to begin whith. Maybe not GM could have really brought out some of the kick with EQ and or comp.

    That's what good mastering is about. If it needs it add it. If it's to much take some away. If it's great leave it alone. I have a lot a respect for George Marino's work so I'm sure it does sound great. What he did to one song is not necessarily the same thing for the next. The trick is to get it to sound like they all have the same top and bottom!

    I think your question leans towards the same question I get a lot. What do you do? As if there is a specific EQ curve that we slap on all records. It doesn't work that way. You have to listen to every song on it's own. Then see how it works with the rest of the tracks. It's a lot more work (to do it well) than one might think.
     
  6. Don Grossinger

    Don Grossinger Distinguished past mastering moderator Active Member

    Mukshoe,
    I was almost tempted to not reply to this only because the other guys gave absolutely fine answers.

    George Marino is a real PRO. If you liked it that much, I'm sure he did just what was required to get it there.

    The only wqy to guess about how it got there would MAYBE to know the "sound"the producer generally favors, how her (Patti's) previous albums sounded perhaps with other producers/studios/engineers. And then guess.

    There is no stock answer....
     
  7. mukshoe

    mukshoe Guest

    thanks guys, i haven't heard much from the producer and her other record was totally acoustic.....but i highly recomend it...cheers for the replies and merry merry to you and yours....mark
     

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