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Pops & Clicks

Discussion in 'Recording' started by thedug, Jun 29, 2002.

  1. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I keep getting this popping/clicking type sound on by recordings.
    I assume this must be some type of sync issue.

    I can’t seem to get rid of it with any types of plugins.
    I have noticed that if I zoom way in the wave form as a “repeated oscillation” if I delete the repeated oscillation the click/pop will vanish.

    Any idea, tips, advice?

    It is very intermittent and it seems to happen more prevenlently in some songs than others. One theory of mine is that once it starts happening it is like a snow ball effect.

    PS I don’t think this has to do with disk buffers/latency as the Nuendo performance meter indicates less than 1% disk activity

    **SETUP**
    Nuendo 1.5.3
    Echo Layla24
    Windows XP
    ASUS A7A266
    1Ghz AMD
    512 Mg DDR
    7200 RPM disk.

    Thanks,
    d./
     
  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Remember....when mixing only, and adding plugins you will need to raise the buffer on the card to be able to handle the information being played out...the more data the harder a lower buffer setting will be taxed due to the heavy load...
    Try raising the buffers as you add plugins and so forth...also in Nuendo use the offline processing..
    Opus
     
  3. ChrisStuckey

    ChrisStuckey Guest

    First thing you need to do is make sure you have this update. I used to have the same prob. with XP.

    XP Messenger Audio Update
     
  4. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Chris....that has NOTHING to do with the Layla...it's not USB..that patch is ONLY for USB based audio cards....
    now I think the main issue stems from having an ALi chipset...I dont't know if Echo is ok with those chipsets or not...a question for Echo audio support!
    Opus
     
  5. thedug

    thedug Guest

    Hey,

    I constantly hear about AMD chipsets having issues. Especially because usb and ide are routed through the pic BUS!

    I am considering going INTELL. I have contacted echo support and will see what they have to say. People have reported that the ALI chipset works. However this problem didn't pop up until I started recording more tracks.

    I don't think it is a problem with the echo cuz the same thing was happening with my delta.

    I have done the following:
    Nuendo: buffers 12x512
    Nuendo: preload to max
    Nuendo: unchecked lower latency
    Flashed BIOS
    Returned PCI Latency to it's original value

    Things I am considering if I still hear clicks
    Turn off USB
    Get a house clock
    Get a p4 with the 845 chipset

    D./
     
  6. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I have done some more testing.

    I had a hunch that it might have something to do with my dual monitors as I hadn't noticed it until I add the new sound card & extra monitor. I ran some tracks with nuendo only displaying on one monitor and nuendo on both.

    It seems like there are some suttle artifacts in the 2nd monitor track that I don't hear in the 1 monitor track.

    However there is one part of the song where both tracks start getting severe pops and clicks. Is it possible the other tracks with sync error could cause errors? Or could the project file somehow cause problems?

    Thanks,
    d./
     
  7. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    What video card are you using?
    Opus
     
  8. thedug

    thedug Guest

    GeForce 4MX

    With 2 VGAs

    d./
     
  9. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...not really sure at this point..it could be a combination of your chipset, video card and audio card all not playing nicely together.
    Do you have access to a Matrox G550? I wouldtry that and see if it helps at all...also Echo will most likely say they don't support that chipset..
    Opus
     
  10. thedug

    thedug Guest

    Echo says they don't support my chipset.

    They say they support for AMD

    VIA KX 133
    VIA KT 133
    VIA KT 333
    760
    760 MT
    VIA KT266

    Which would you recommend? What are the tradeoffs?
    Also, would it be better to say screw AMD and go with pentium?

    d./
     
  11. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I don't have any spare video cards. The GeForce was purchased cuz my TNT was making some loud noises and I was affraid it might fry.

    d./
     
  12. themidiroom

    themidiroom Active Member

    The Echo cards work fine on AMD chipsets. I'm using the 760MP and a friend of mine is using the VIA 133 chipset. I did read somewhere about issues with the GeForce graphics cards used with and Echo audio card.
    The Matrox dual video adapters are highly recommended and my ATI Radeon 7500 dual video card works very well.
    :cool:
     
  13. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    See...told ya so! lol I should be a psychic! :p
    Already replied to your post on the Nuendo forum.
    But just to reiterate...
    AMD chipsets and Intel chipsets are the way to go..if you want the safe bet..Intel!
    Opus
     
  14. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I am just worried that it isn't my chipset that is giving me issues. I could end up spending alot of money and not get anywhere.

    I already have an amd chipset. I am tempted just to get a new mobo rather than a new processor and mobo. I will look into the 760.

    Is there a particular mobo that you would recommend?

    Also, If I went with intell, can you make a recommendation on chipset/mobo?

    d./
     
  15. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Dug
    Do you ever do any forum searches? You of all people know what boards we reccomend..you read the Nuendo forums as well as over here...
    read up man..we're not going to list the same boards and the same answers three thousand times!
    M'kay?
    Opus :roll:
     
  16. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I am just trying to wade through all the information and see what is true and what is not.

    Hands down I hear that ALIMAJIK chipset sucks so I need to move on from that.

    You say VIA sucks and I have read that alot, but I have some people saying that the KT333 is the fastest and most impressive chipset available. I am just torn between the KT333, 760, or just saying ^#$% it going INTELL.

    d./
     
  17. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Well, say ^#$% it and go with the 845E or G chipset...Asus P4B533!!
    Intel all the way baby! lol
    Opus
     
  18. thedug

    thedug Guest

    All the 760 mobos I can find are dual processor. Which means I can't re-use my chip. :(

    d./
     
  19. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7m266/overview.htm

    This has the 761 which is pretty much the same if I'm right...which will allow you to still use your processor!!!!!!
    Opus :D
     
  20. thedug

    thedug Guest

    I'll check with echo on the 761.

    I'll also hunt around for more 761 boards to compair. I was thinking about increasing my memmory from 512 to 1G.

    It may make more sense to go dual processor than to go 1G memmory.

    d./
     
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