Power amp for Peavey Sp2

Discussion in 'Location Recording' started by Gertok, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    We just got 2 peavey sp2. And for now we use my Tapco J1400 power amp. This is my bass back up amp. And it is not that loud. What amp would you suggest for these speakers.

    Sp2s:
    RMS 500watts
    Program 1000 wats
    Peak 2000

    P.S. We are thinking about adding 2 subs and an amp to run them may be next year and use it to run our own shows.
     
  2. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Oh, just get yourself a Peavey 800. Those workout really nice with SP 2's. You only want to be concerned with the RMS power rating. Which is 400 per channel. 800 bridged. Running stereo PA is an oxymoron. So running the amplifier in bridged mode with your speakers in parallel will give you more level & headroom than running 400 per side. Amplifier peak power varies with manufacturer & power supplies and really means nothing to you. Most speakers can withstand peaks at least four times higher than their RMS continuous power ratings. For instance, I always run my 50 W continuous rated control room speakers with 150 W amplifiers. I haven't blown any in 30 years so... I think subs, in small clubs is overrated. What is it that you need to sub? The bass drum? The bass guitar? I don't think so. "P" pops & "B" blasts? I think not. The guitar? Don't make me laugh. Don't try this at home.

    Did I say I also a hate 1/3 octave equalization? For feedback control? Give me a break. I throw those out. Now I don't want to get my professional PA friends mad at me over that last comment. But I like my PA like I like my single malt scratch. Neat. Ain't that neet?

    I have the smoothest legs & recordings in the industry
    Ms. Remy Ann David
     
  3. steppingonmars

    steppingonmars Active Member

    This is the best bang for the buck

    http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-XR-8600-Powered-Mixer?sku=631374

    600watts per channel

    It has monitor out and eq for both channels

    All you have to do is buy some monitors and you have a full pa in a box

    If you buy a mixer you can still use it as a power amp

    I own a xr 696 and monitors, works great. Most of the places we play already have a PA so I sold my SP2's so the few times I do a gig that needs a PA I rent speakers

    Subs are nice, but if you're doing small clubs they're not needed if your band has a good stage sound. Usually what happens is that the guitar player plays too damn loud, the bass player has a shitty rig and the drummer doesn't know how to tune a kick drum, then everyone thinks it sounds bad because there's no subs. If the bar doesn't hold 100 people forget it.
     
  4. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    :cool: Thank you.
    Our rigs are:
    Bass: Sansamp RPM, Aphex 661, QSC RMX 1450, Ampeg 810, X2 wireless.
    Guitars: ROcktron Prophecy 2, VHT tube power amp (do not remember what model, but it costs around 1400) avatar 4x12 cabs.
    so :cool: it is pretty good gear.
    We are very loud though and everything cuts through. But we cant hear our vocals at all 8-(

    We use behringer UB2224FX mixer
     
  5. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Another question
    We want to use some reverb modulation and compression on vocals, and it seems like lexicon mx200 unit has all of this in it and all we will need is a nice preamp infront of that, would you advice to do so?
    Even if we use it just at our practice space until we grow enough to have a sound guy that will know what to do with our gear.
     
  6. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    "so it is pretty good gear.
    ..
    We use behringer UB2224FX mixer"

    You were right when you said it, then it went to pot.
    Get something that's made by a reputable company. At least after your current mixer fails you.

    *edited
     
  7. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    That is why I wrote it at the very end :cool:.
    Well I don't think the problem is in the mixer, except that we might be overcompressing vocals with its "wonderfull" :cool: built in fx. I will look into that today. Cause Tapco J1400 should be able to push 900w into 8ohms bridged.
     
  8. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Ok... turns out we were overcompressing them. But know we have another problem 8-(
    We are too loud, just as a band. Unless the gain on the mic is pretty much all the way down, it will redline from the sound of the guitars drums bass. What can we do to help it with out turning down the volume of the instruments... Maybe gating?... don't kill me after i said that :cool: I know gating lead vocals... uhhhhh but what else....
     
  9. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    See that volume knob? Yeah? Turn THOSE down.

    *poof* sorted.

    There, blueprinterink, is that a definitive enough answer for your trolling ways?

    TBH gating isn't really gonna fix your volume problems.

    If the inputs are too hot, turn the input gain down. If the band is too loud, turn the band down. If the band is too hot, well... take advantage while it lasts :D
     
  10. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Actually just drums make them clip. No way we can turn drummer down :cool: WE will try to make vocalist to stand futher from the kit, turn him around.... reposition our cabs in a circle. and if nothing helps we will have to... have gay sex with each other and turn everything down 8-(
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    This is how it is all positioned right now, except that SP2s are behind guitar cabs on stands
     
  11. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Your drummer will hate you and you'll hate the lack of snap in the snare, but look into Flix
    http://flixproducts.com/productssticks.html

    Knocks a massive amount of volume off the kit though.
     

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