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Pre-amp Matchmaking

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by casey, Sep 24, 2004.

  1. casey

    casey Guest

    If you were going to buy two different flavors of preamps for recording vocals and electric guitars, which single-channels would you consider, assuming these were the only two you could use?

    Basically, I need some amount of diversity, but the two also need to work together somewhat.

    Any suggestions?

  2. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Hey Casey
    Depending upon your budget my choice would be.

    Earthworks 1021 (single channel, great on vocals, acoustic gtr ect)

    Vintech X73i (very Neve-esque, thick and furry)
    Chandler TG2 (Super warm, copy of EMI beatles desk)

    The thing about my choices are that each preamp has a very different sound and can be used on many sources. I think you generally want to pick gear that can do double or triple duty. More bang for the buck...

    Also, using a different preamp on say, two electric gtr tracks can give them each a more distinctive tone which usually makes them dove-tail better in the mix. Too much of any "signature tone" can kinda build up and become mushy.

    Hope this helps,

  3. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Littledog audio ... I tried to go to your websiite but I couldn't get it to come up ... all I got was :
    What's with that?? Are you the same littledog that was banned from RO last year?
  4. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Nope, never been here before. Yeah, I'm fighting with my webmaster to get the site actually published. Earlier today it was up and now it's back down.??

    We are just getting out of the gates.

    I'm getting a bunch of super cool micpres, eq's and compressors in every day and hope to have a banner ad on rec.org very soon.

    The only person who has banned me is an ex-wife. Ouch

    Thanks for asking though.
  5. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    I'm of those that don't think that having only two types of preamps to choose from is viable or reality in the working audio world. It is almost too painful to even think about or consider. I guess if I really had to choose, it would be an old Neve or a Neve clone and a John Hardy.
  6. Sebatron

    Sebatron Well-Known Member

    I think two different Topologies...
    I mean why have two different preamps that virtually sound the same? ......... the box?
  7. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Yeah I agree with Sebatron and Audiogaff. But.. The original question was based on getting just two channels of mic pres.

    The John Hardy's are definitely in the genre of the Earthworks. I've used both quite a bit but prefer the Earthworks abit more because I think they sound better on more sources.

    And of course the Neve-esque sound just makes sense to cover the biggest spectrum for the money.

    btw. I started using Geoff Tanner's GTQ2 pre/eq and think it will be the new benchmark for the neve thing. Super-nice!

  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    well...maybe the 737 sp and ?

    well...for some reason I have the impression that Avalon pres are some of the best. I am still trying to snag one off ebay for around $1300. Any day now.
    I want one for vocals and guitar. Is the 737sp great for both?
    My Avalon U5 (direct box) is already on bass guitar. So with that in mind, which pre amp would be a great addition as a next purchase?
  9. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sure the 737 is good on a lot of sources.
    It has good clearity and kinda tube-ish sound.

    You should check out the Universal Audio 6176, I love everything about it. I know it's more than a used 737 but is well worth it.

    Also for a little less scratch you can pick up the new LA-610 Channel strip. The LA-610 uses three 12AX7A’s, a single 6072A and a single 6AQ5 tube for amplifier warmth.

    Avalon has less color, good bang for the buck.
    Uaudio has more color, and a classic tone.

    Preamps are different tools that can be used in many different application. Find a good dealer (if you're buying new) that will let you evaluate a piece of gear for a week or so before making a final decision.

  10. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    LA 610

    LA 610 is made by whom?
    thanks for the reply
  11. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Re: LA 610

    It's made by UA


    ohhhhhh! ohhhhhhh! I want one ! That's the stuff!
  12. casey

    casey Guest

    Back to the two preamp purchase for Eguitar and vocals....

    How bout a 610 for guitars and a Great River for vocals?

    Or maybe a Vintech 1272 and a John Hardy?

    Perhaps a 610 and a TAB Funkenwerks V-78 ?

    I'm gonna have to make due with these until I can afford my "wall of preamps".
  13. Bhennies

    Bhennies Guest

    do you think you might want a stereo pre in addition to a single channel instead of just two single channels? YOu might find yourself getting into stereo micing techniques down the road. Maybe a UA 2-610 and the great river mp1nv? Or a 2 channel great river with an m-610? I dunno....

    with those two pres, you'll be more than making "due"...

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