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Preamp Choice for Shure KSM44

Discussion in 'Preamps / Channel Strips' started by igotnosmoke, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. igotnosmoke

    igotnosmoke Active Member

    Hey guys,

    Ive recently received an offer by a decent local band to record their first official EP. Steping up to the challenge would mean id need to fork out some cash on more gear, at present im using Pro Tools M Powered using a delta 1010 card.

    Ive heard good reviews about the Shure KSM44 on male voice, so im highly considering one of these, has anyone not achieved decent results with this mic or any problems with it i should know about?

    Would i need to invest in a high quality pre amp with my current set up? At present im using a Art Tube MP STUDIO V3... Would the difference be large enough to invest in a higher end pre amp?? budget really restricts me from spending big bucks...so any suggestions or tips would be GREAT :)

  2. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    The Shure condenser Mics are all great! The simple little tube preamplifier you have should be adequate but if you want something more esoteric, you will be putting out esoteric $$$. It won't really matter if you're doing rock-and-roll. Make sure you follow your preamp with a compressor/limiter, when cutting the vocal! Try a DBX 166 or similar. If you want a really good compressor/limiter, then drop a few bucks and invest in a UREI 1176 or equivalent. Otherwise. Save your money learn how to use your tools at hand.

    Ms. Remy Ann David
  3. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    I brought home a KSM44 and I'm really liking it....it's going to suck when I have to return it. I've been using it with my Brick, and it is hard to believe how clear the sound is. It's almost as if the person is next to you singing, but better.
  4. igotnosmoke

    igotnosmoke Active Member

    thanks for the responses... they were of great help.

    Till now ive been using the compressor tools that come with the software, never used the hardware.... is the difference in result worth the additional $300-$800 ?

  5. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Guest

    You bet there is a difference while tracking with a compressor/limiter! To list the most obvious reason you will not overload your A/D converter. Increasing the density of the signal with the analog compressor will effectively increase the use of bits available and create a better use of the data. I most always use a compressor/limiter when cutting vocals and/or other percussive instruments. All those phonies out there that are afraid that you cannot undo what you did are not completely inaccurate they're just lousy engineers. Always remember, Less is more! And of course, I would rather use my best limiter/compressor while tracking than a bargain box. I may still also includes additional dynamics processing from within the software after tracking. I think I'm a good cook and nobody has complained about any of my meals. Yummm delicious audio casserole!

    Remy Ann David
  6. roguescout

    roguescout Guest

    My current setup for vocals and VO goes like this:

    Shure KSM44 --> Groove Tubes Brick --> FMR RNC --> Fireface 800 --> Cubase SX3

    Works and sounds great!

  7. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    So this brings up one of the very coolest things about the KSM44 mic...some have called them ....errr....boring...I call em accurate.

    And the best part is they really take to the different aspects of different mic pres quite well. Ya get a tubey colored thingy and thats what you hear, something pristine and clean and the mic does that too. Cant really go wrong with it.

    The pre you choose will dictate the sound of the track with this mic.
  8. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    I run my KSM through my Sebatron 4000e CRANKED. Love it for everything from a room mic to vox!
  9. tumbledown

    tumbledown Guest

    Another KSM44/Sebatron user here. Love it. It was very good even with a VTB-1... but fantastic with the Seb. (Male vox mostly and sometimes additional acoustic tracks for contrast.)
  10. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    Yeah...I think I'm going to buy a KSM44 once the evaluation period is up on mine. I have it until May so I'll be fine until then. I'm also borrowing an SM7b, and although it is no comparison....another cool mic!

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