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Pro Tools and External Hard Drive

Discussion in 'Pro Tools' started by strings1, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    I have been to Avid and posted there with not much help other than to be told I need to get a fire wire external hard drive. The issue is I cannot record to the USB 2.0 1 TB external hard drive I have now. I can save to it but can use it to record to. I have to use the internal hard drive and designate it as the record hard drive. I am just checking here before going out and forking out $150.00 to $200.00 for either a 500GB or 1 TB, respectively, external hard drive with fire wire.
  2. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    You have a Mac and PT8. What is your interface? Why can't you use a USB hard drive? If the interface is USB then yes you'll need a firewire or preferably eSATA external or additional internal (on it's own cable). Do you have a firewire port?
  3. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    Thank you Jack for reply to this.

    The interface is digi 002 fire wire to comp.I have an open fire wire port on the comp. No eSATA.
  4. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    There is no good reason why you couldn't use a usb drive that was 7200 rpm. I haven't seen an iMac so don't know the feasability of adding a second internal drive. Firewire would be a better protocol but not a deal killer. If you did go firewire you would run to the hard drive and chain from it to the 002.
  5. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    So chain it to the Digi? not the comp
  6. pmolsonmus

    pmolsonmus Well-Known Member

    I go from a laptop to an external hard drive via firewire 800 and then from the hard drive to My OO3r via FW400. Everything plays nicely.

    I don't think Digi recommends USB via the 002 (don't quote me) It may be possible, but I think you'd have drop out problems. You also probably don't need that large of an external hard drive, but if you're buying new stick to Digi's specs. I've got a rackmounted Glyph that doesn't blink.

  7. Steve@Russo

    Steve@Russo Active Member

    glyph 100%, never had an issue, ever!
  8. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    Thank you Steve and Phil for the feed back! So a 500GB should be fine to start then? I had seen some CalDigit products but it sounds like both of you would recommend the glyph?
  9. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Glyph is as much a standard in audio and video editing as anything. I have many Glyph drives including a pair of 051's. Your initial post spoke of not wanting to spend money which of course is sometimes counterproductive.
  10. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Oops. As to size, my recording drives are all in the 60-100gb range. After the project is recorded I transfer the audio to large storage drives like your 1tb usb drive.
  11. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    Thanks Jack. I was trying to rationalize the need to spend that kinda of cash when you can get 2TB for less. I should have probably said that in the first post as well. I appreciate all of the input and found some other threads here that helped me understand the reason for the fire wire verses USB. I am wondering now with USB 3.0 coming out and having a greater capacity to transfer data if the industry will change to that.

    Again thanks for all of the helpful input.:biggrin:
  12. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Damn phones. Take two shorter.

    I don't think USB3 will change the game much. eSATA is still a better protocol with SATA6 and the interface industry is likely to skip USB3 in favor of the new light protocol.
  13. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    This will interesting to see for sure.
  14. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    With the Glyph should i stick to 7200rpm format or go to the SSD. I was checking out their website and seen these differences.
  15. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    In my home rack I have a GT050Q (Storage) and a GT051 chained together. In my mobile location rack I have a GT051. The 051 allows easy transfer of files/audio from the location rack to the house rack via the key drives. If you don't transfer between computers then obviously any of the 050Q series or the Portagig series will be rockin just fine.

    The Glyph will only come with 7200 Seagate HDD. They don't do an SSD option. If you really want the schizzle though, Glyph does a RAID drive box that is nice (062 maybe?). I don't use it as I find the normal version perfectly adequate. You could bust open a Glyph box and put an SSD in but I don't know that there is an advantage to that unless you're in a very high vibrational environment. In which case don't put any more quarters in the bed........
  16. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    The PT techs say,

    "USB drives are not supported and are known to be problematic. Avoid using USB drives, as they are known for causing a variety of errors. "
  17. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    In my home rack I have a Glyph GT050Q - for regular archiving, and a GT062E RAID used for audio and video production - set up with simple RAID 1 redundancy, and a portable Glyph Companion to transfer big projects to and from the laptop.

    And there's a Glyph Project-X hooked up to the old computer.

    I also have 2 x G-RAID (brandname) external drives (one has been trouble-free, the other has burned me twice with total failure and complete data loss).

    I won't buy any more drives that aren't made by Glyph. They're well worth a little extra.
  18. TheJackAttack

    TheJackAttack Distinguished Member

    Of course, this is OS and interface specific as Digi actually recommends the opposite in other circumstances. Also Digi was not known for wanting particularly to make things work once they found a good combination of components. The user forums can attest to that.

    At any rate, firewire is definitely better in general application for most computer/interface combinations barring specific manufacturer recommendations to the contrary. eSATA still reigns king of the hill however.
  19. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    Thanks again for the input. Jack that is too funny. I did find on the Glyph site they do make a SSD but recommend using the HDD at this time. So I will go with that.
  20. strings1

    strings1 Active Member

    So it looks like i can get one of these at GC. Interesting thing is the 1TB is only $8 more than the 500GB. $225.00 and $219.00 respectively. At SamAsh the 500GB is only $179 with the 1TB selling for $225.00 Specs are the same from what I can tell. Since I live in a rural area so I will see about shipping etc..

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