Problem with Audio CD Master

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by haripuram, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. haripuram

    haripuram Active Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    Hi everyone,

    Iam a Sound Engineer

    I work for a Audio Label company in INDIA.

    I Make Masters CDs ( Audio and MP3) in Nero burning with Minimum Speed (16X). Glass Master Disks and Stamping was done by Third Party.

    Now the problem is Few Audio and Mp3 CDs are not played in few cars and music systems.

    I need you suggestion what is wrong with my master. . is it the nero burning software or the burning speed
    or is this the problem with the third party. . !!

    Thanks for the help
  2. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Moderator (Distinguished Member) Resource Member

    Nov 25, 2012
    Akron/Cleveland, OH
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    If the third party discs are up to redbook standards, and are playable in any CD drive, then the problem is on your end.

    It could be any number - or even a combination of things... you may be printing the CD with the wrong format (sample rate, bit resolution, etc.), or neglecting the industry Redbook standard - which provides professional specifications for audio CD's.

    Here's a list of some of the other potential reasons that can cause what you are experiencing:

    • Some older CD players will not play CD-Rs or CD-RWs at all.
    • Some older CD players will play some CD-Rs or CD-RWs but not others. Different brands of CD-Rs and CD-RWs use different types of substrates to create their reflective surfaces. Some will fall into a particular player's specs and some will not.
    • CD-R 80 CDs do not have the same level of compatibility with players as 74 minute CD-Rs.
    • Try switching the brand of media you are using, as that has long been known to fix the problem. Do NOT use cheap/budget blank CD's. Use a high quality disc, something like Taiyo Yuden's.
    • Use CD-RWs instead of CD-Rs. Perhaps those will work better in your system.
    • Burn the CD at a slower speed.
    • When you burn a CD in Sound Forge, Vegas, or ACID, make sure that you close the CD's table of contents. If you fail to do this, the CD will not be read by the CD player.
    • Your CD Burner should be up to certain specs. There are burners that are spec'd and dedicated for audio use that meet certain standards. You shouldn't be using the standard "stock" CD Burner Drive that came with your computer.
    You also failed to mention your system's specs... OS, CPU, Type of CD Recordable Drive, etc.
    If you are having buffer under-runs, or are using a bare minimum of memory, errors can be written to the disc, rendering them unplayable.

    It sounds to me as if you aren't really an audio engineer. It's easy to refer to yourself as such, but if you were a real audio engineer, you would have already known all - or at least most of the reasons mentioned above.
    I suggest dropping the formal title, until you either have enough education - or commensurate experience in the field, before you refer to yourself as an "engineer".

  3. Boswell

    Boswell Distinguished Moderator Resource Member

    Apr 19, 2006
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    The recent versions of Nero are prone to the sort of problems you mention. It's time to find another burning program that doesn't give you this sort of trouble.
  4. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Moderator Resource Member

    Dec 18, 2008
    Western Pennsylvania, USA
    Not all audio CD players will read mp3 files, simple as that.

    As far as I know, 16-bit, 44.1k, uncompressed WAV and AIFF files are the only file formats virtually every CD player can read.

    Mp3 formattted CDs require the player to decode & decompress the file (in real-time), which a lot of older dedicated-CD-players were never designed to do. The CD predates the MP3 by about 15 years. Lots of manufacturers have evolved to accommodate mp3 playback in their newer models, but beyond a certain point the technology didn't exist.
  5. haripuram

    haripuram Active Member

    Feb 17, 2015

    Hi sir,

    Thanks so much for the reply.. i am feeling very bad being asked not to call myself an Audio Engineer. . I'll take this in a positive way and stop calling me as an audio engineer, until i get the basic experience.

    My PC Specifications
    Windows 9,Intel i7-2600 CPU@3.40 GHz
    10 GB RAM
    64 bit OS.

    NERO 10 ( CD Burning ROM)

    SONY CD-R 700 MB ( Blank medium)

    Can you please suggest me few dedicated CD Burners.

    thank you so much sir

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