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Purchasing the brick

Discussion in 'Preamps / Channel Strips' started by stickers, Oct 1, 2005.

  1. stickers

    stickers Active Member

    OK i say this tongue and cheek...

    but god dammit if I lay down the cash 2 BT Bricks and I dont hear an improvement or a nice added sonic taste over my onyx mackie pres I'll be very disappointed in everyone who has spoken praise about this item and I will never forgive "you"!!!

    And I am buying a pair of Kel HM-1s and the same goes for them too!!!

    If I am not happy, as punishment, I will add a signature to my profile that will be very contraversal!!!
  2. Derm

    Derm Guest

    Why not buy one of each to see if you like them?
    Let us know how you get on :cool:

    BROKENBONES Active Member

    i think that's a very good idea. the combination of both those could end up with pure mud. a stereo option might be unworkable or unnecessary. buying one of each allows you to test the setup.
  4. stickers

    stickers Active Member

    2 is always better than one. Why else do you think people buy dual mic pres and 2 of the same mics? It's not always about recording in stereo. It's about options. And its not about buying the HM-1 strictly for the brick..i have other mic pres for that mic and I have other mics in which to feed into the brick.

    Besides If I buy just one HM-1 and one brick I will have 13 mic pres and 13 mics. I am very superstitious.
  5. CoyoteTrax

    CoyoteTrax Well-Known Member

    You'll be happy with the purchase Stickers, no worries. It's a totally wise move. Not to mention the fact that you'll be able to build a good tube collection to give exponentially increase your tonal options with those bricks (or any other tube pre). Once you have a decent tube pre (like a brick) one of the wisest investments you can make after that is investing in some quality NOS tubes.

    You're right, it's all about having choices and options.

    Congratualtions on your new purchase!
  6. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Well, then you will be REALLY pissed at me as I have 2 of both items!!
  7. stickers

    stickers Active Member


    Once I test the items and if I dont like them, I will only be pissed at you if you have publically endorsed the items. you have been warned!! :D
  8. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Only an idiot buys gear based on the blind faith of what people say on a forum. You have the ability to make your own decisions on what is best or good for you. All that can be said with certainty is that the Brick is a good and decent peice of gear and a real good value. That doesn't mean it is going to appeal to everybody or that your going to get a thrill or get better tracks out of using it.

    And blaming others because you buy something and don't like it is surely something a real pro would not do...
  9. stickers

    stickers Active Member

    AudioGaff must have missed my opening line.

    AudioGaff you speak as though we grew up together. I am an idiot and I am not a real pro.

    PS. Could you please return the playboy you borrowed back in 8th grade or did your Dad find it?
  10. jdsdj98

    jdsdj98 Active Member

    Why be so rude to a post blatantly made in jest, gaff? Not too impressive for a moderator.

    To be so outspoken in your opinions, which always seem very valid and with merit, why do you not use your real name here? Seems that would lend more credibility to your advice and your role as a moderator. You've never told us who you are or where you come from. Your posts are often very abrasive and I, for one, am curious about who you are. If you are truly the heavy hitter that you come across as being, I will easily be able to credit your ego, arrogance, and abrasiveness to your impressive resume and track record.

    This is all coming from an admitted "nobody". Not looking to pick a fight. Just wondering who you are, that's all. If you don't want to tell us who you are, would you mind at least telling us why you're so secretive?

  11. jdsdj98

    jdsdj98 Active Member

    Audiogaff is shown as the moderator of this forum. He rarely appears here to "moderate" and when he does, it's often in the rude, abrupt, abrasive nature shown above. This has had me wonder for a long time who this person is, what his background is, and what his credentials for being a moderator are. For someone so smug and arrogant, I've never understood the shroud of secrecy around his identity.

    Out of fear of being flamed here and starting an unnecessary flame war, I have always been cautious of asking him to identify himself. I suspect that others on this forum feel the same way, and thus have not posed this question. However, I feel that it's a fair and valid question, and regardless of the consequences to my standing at RO, I am cordially asking him to tell us who he is and why he is so abrasive with his advice, especially given the fact that he is the moderator of this forum.

    I have always been open to and impressed with his advice. It is his delivery and underlying attitude that doesn't seem quite right. This thread seems to be demonstrative of that.
  12. numrologst

    numrologst Guest

    Hey buddy

    I understand your qualms. The groove tubes will be a marked improvement over the mackies. I have a set of bricks. They are great preamps for most things.

    One thing to keep in mind is that the brick doesn't have a -db pad on it. I believe the minimum gain is 25db. Which causes some problems when miking up drums.

    Also I don't like the brick too much on vocals.

    It works well as a DI for guitar and bass. Also does nicely on acoustic instruments.

    But if i were you, i would go for a sebatron vmp-2000e. That is the newest preamp I have added to my studio and it is wonderful. I also have a vmp-1000e. Now I use them for everything. They sound great on everything. At the big studio we have an avalon 737 and ua 6176. This compares right on with those preamps. I think it sounds better on acoustic instruments. The sebatron has a very nice character and you can get some really nice hi gain sounds out of them.

    So my vote would be to spend a few extra bucks and get the sebatron. They are top quality pro units. If you got this you could never find a reason to blame it on the forum. You won't have 1 complaint except that you want more.

    I think their dealers also offer a 30 day money back guarantee. So try them out. You wont be sorry
  13. Pre Amp

    Pre Amp Guest

    AudioGaff is a computer.
    All his post are pre-determined, according to all prior post(s).
    AudioGaff.... test 1, 2, 3
    please respond AudioGaff
  14. Reggie

    Reggie Well-Known Member

    The AudioGaff is not a computer. The AudioGaff is pure Energy and Light. NOW BOW DOWN AND DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!

    But seriously......
    This has kind of been my feeling all along. The Brick is a very cool spare channel, or great for your first "gold" channel in a small home studio setup. And of course for its intended use as a live preamp. But once you start buying several of these, you could have better stuff for about the same money (Sebatron VMP2000). Don't get me wrong, I don't think you'll hate it; but my love affair with it kind of ended when I started building the SCA stuff (also cheaper per channel).
  15. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Probably all true, but I get the feeling this is a small home studio type operation so its probably appropriate.
  16. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Alright guys --

    First - lay off Gaff. He's a knowledgable guy and is here to help. So, he may have mistaken your wit as pure sentiment, but let's give it to him, if you really are going out to buy a brick based solely on what others say here, you really must be smoking something. I wouldn't buy a solid gold microphone for $49 if everyone on the board recommended it if I hadn't listened to it yet.

    So, if you are interested in the Brick - just be sure that:
    1. The store you buy it from has a good return policy.
    2. The store understands that you are buying the pre with the intent of evaluating it and it may end up being returned.
    3. Make sure you have enough stuff to test it on within the 30 day (or so, depending upon vendor) return period. I can't tell you how many times I've bought something only to use it in 1 trial. Then, 6 months down the line, the REAL reason I bought it comes up and I don't like it for that purpose. Kinda sucks, cuz you don't get that good a return on your investment on E-bay.


    As for the moderators - true, you don't know any of them. However, mod's are chosen by others who evaluate their posts over time. If they don't know what they're doing, they'll quickly be exposed. Gaff is extremely knowledgable and if you don't believe me, check some of his previous posts.

    Like all of us, we do get a little tired of some of the same old posts from time to time... (Which mic for x... / which cheap pre... / and so on...)

    So, please lay off the attacks!

  17. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Oh, nice try stirring up trouble... :roll:

    We all listen to good people here and no one tries to make anyone feel like an idiot. If you don't like what the mod says, fine. Ignore him/her. There's no reason to suggest that he/she doesn't know what they're doing or attack them.

    Let's face it, there are so many topics out there stating that "Based on what you guys say, I'm gonna buy "X". " Or, "After reading the reviews, I've decided to buy "Y". "

    Gaff is simply stating the God's honest truth. If you buy anything based on others' opinions, then you deserve to have it suck for you.

    There is NO excuse nowadays for not being able to "Try before you buy" or at least buy it for an approval period.

    So, lay off please stop trying to insight a fight.

  18. Reggie

    Reggie Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, they won't make people feel like an idiot over there......

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