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Random hangings

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Coma Cluster, May 22, 2003.

  1. Coma Cluster

    Coma Cluster Guest

    Hi. I'm breaking in a new system (see specs below) and have begun getting *random* hangings when mainly working with midi in Sonar. When this occurs, I lose control of my keyboard but am able to stop and restart buy mousing the toolbar-transport.

    I am always able to save the current file and sometimes am able close down in the time-honoured manner. Other times I must power out - in which case Ctrl/Alt/del won't work..

    I can replicate the issue by playing a file (need not have audio) whilst holding down Shift and one of the arrows. After about 30 sec, the above will occur. Could this be the video card? dodgy ram? I have a duplicate system on another caddy (not a clone) and this exhibits the same fault.

    Any thoughts most welcome.
    Many Thanks

    XP Home, Sonar 2.2, 2.4gig P4, p4pe, 845pe, Layla 24 6.08 (latest), nVidia Tnt2, 1gig
    DDR333, three 40gig Seagates - 4+36, 20+20 (audio), 4+36
  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    What's the screen resolution and bit depth set to?
    Also I take it you are using the Layla's MIDI ports?

    Are you getting any errors or just hang ups?
    If the system restarts itself with nothing open then I would say it's something hardware based. If not then it's most likely a software/driver conflict possibly.

    It's hard to say...does it happen with audio only or audio and MIDI? What about just MIDI?

    Opus :D
  3. Coma Cluster

    Coma Cluster Guest

    Thanks Opus. Yes, it appears to happen mostly with just midi, though sometimes with audio.
    I have the depth defaulting to 24 and my screen is a LCD set to 1024x768.

    I am using both the Layla's midi port and the port on the P4pe. It appears to have something to do with the speed at which I am working. I tend to touch type with Cakewalk (Sonar) and if I force myself to slow right down, it tends to not happen - to date. The speed issue is probably due to the fact that I would work much slower in Audio than midi.

    The hang occurs when I am ajusting something rapidly in the left hand pane of the Sonar track view while playing midi at the same time. Then I loose keyboard control and must save with the mouse, and shut down and cold boot. Usually I can't warm boot.
    Again thanks for your help
  4. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    USB or PS/2 keyboard and mouse? Also, what if you don't use the onboard MIDI on the motherboard?

  5. Coma Cluster

    Coma Cluster Guest

    I have all the USB turned off. Could having the colour quality set to 32 bit have any influence?I've turned it down to 16 bit(my only other option) and will see if that does anything.
  6. jdier

    jdier Active Member


    I am curious what the techs at Cakewalk tell you. I have had some similar problems with my Dual AMD/Q10/G450 machine running sonar 2.2.

    Did you send an email to Calkwalk yet?

  7. Coma Cluster

    Coma Cluster Guest

    Indeed I did and the reply arrived not ten minutes ago.As per the following .....

    Disable the Layla drivers and see if the problem occurs with just the built inb card. If so, then disable the onboard card and try the Layla. Also, it sounds like an IRQ conflict. Make sure that your USB Port, sound and video cards are not sharing IRQ numbers with any other device. PCI steering should be OK. If they are you can should locate a
    number that doesn't appear in the list and change it to that number.
    If you need help doing this, then you should contact your computer
    manufacturer for instructions on changing the IRQ.

    1) Go to Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device

    2) Choose View > Resources by Type

    3) You'll a list of devices and their respective IRQs.

    4) Alternatively you can run MSINFO32 and export the file as .nfo (to
    on other XP systems) or as a .txt file.

    I'll keep u posted!
  8. jdier

    jdier Active Member

    Have you tried the new Aardvark drivers? They have taken me from a crash an hour down to one crash for an entire weekend.

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