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Reason Adapted question

Discussion in 'Reason' started by jahtao, Dec 30, 2005.

  1. jahtao

    jahtao Guest

    Hi there. Two questions:
    How is Reason Adapted limited compared to normal Reason?
    Is it compatible with the normal Reason? ie does it open songs

    thanks in advance
     
  2. baslotto

    baslotto Active Member

    How is Reason Adapted limited compared to normal Reason?
    You cannot choose the instruments in the rack. They are fixed. No empty rack feature.

    Is it compatible with the normal Reason? ie does it open songs

    Yes if you play a song with the same instruments given in the adapted version and you have the soundbanks used in the song you are trying to play through the adapted.

    Overall I think the adapted version is very limited and it just makes you want to buy the real version. Once you see what you can actually do with Reason you'll find it a fantastic program.

    Cheers.
    Bas.
     
  3. jahtao

    jahtao Guest

    cheers mate.
     
  4. axel

    axel Guest

    baslotto wrote:

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    if you want to through about 300 british pounds out of the window , go for it.

    it's a cool reason.

    ok, i have to edit my post, to not come across as an arrogant guy who is just blurping around....

    what i mean is that there is absolut nothing which you can do with reason, that you can't do with most of other good high quality DAW apps like logic for example... rather spend the money on other gear or additional software for your apps you already use...

    if you think that reason can do stuff other apps like logic can't than i have to say you just don't know how to use logic or any other full daw apps propperly and to the fullest...

    my suggestion is to settle with, and use one apps fully. instead of using several, which essentially all do the same thing.

    and this want be reason, because you can't so far not even record a thing (only import audio) and the sequencer is rather very, very weak...
     
  5. baslotto

    baslotto Active Member

    Catrax.

    Do you know Reason or you just played with it once at your friends place?

    I would never compare it with Logic, they are 2 different animals. Reason is not a DAW app as you say. It's not supposed to do the same thing at all.

    Learn the program and post again. Logic has nothing to do with Reason. Period.

    Bas.

    PS: A guitar has a better sound than a clarinet!!!!

    Catrax wake up before you post, I know you are a good guy.
     
  6. axel

    axel Guest

    baslotto wrote:

    okey dokey time to wake up my friend!

    here it is, i do use reason since version 1.0 under mac os 9.2
    just after it came out, i do have reason 3 under mac osx NOW it's a NFR version ,like almost all of my software i use and have (yes, i am in the lucky situation that software companys want me to use their stuff!!), which is good that way, because i would not spend a penny on reason, nor use it, if i would have to buy it!!

    ok, here are the reasons...

    i am fully aware of that REASON IS NOT AT ALL INTENDED TO BE A SOFTWARE LIKE LOGIC, DP, PT, CUBASE OR THE LIKE...

    that is not the point of my "don't waste money" argument.

    reason certainly is an all in one easy to learn apps...
    which you can certainly use to create music with...
    except recording or using any 3rd party enhancement, except rewire..

    one very good point that speaks for reason is, that it's good for learning the principals of a real studio enviroment for real bloody beginners who don't have a single clue at all (and i really mean that in a positive sense!!! i use it for that sometimes when i give trainings / workshops about the principals of studio production)
    except the actual recording of a sound...

    it is also good for people who have a pc or mac, no matter just a computer and are interested to create some music, AS A HOBBY, it's easy, it has nearly all you need, you don't have to play an instrument at all and you can come up with songs, there are enough presets, samples, and the matrix mixer after enough time spend twiddling will give you some results of a melody pattern or bassline, e.g. it has all you need to get you going very quickly... but has a limit very quickly, too.

    that is all fine!

    BUT WE ARE HERE ON RO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AND WE TALK PRO AUDIO GEAR / PROFESSIONAL PRODUCTION / RECORDING, OR PEOPLE WHO TAKE THEIR HOBBY REALLY SERIOUS AND HAVE MOSTLY THE AIM TO GET INTO THE MUSIC PROFESSION!! AT SOME POINT.
    it means people who integrate an entire system within their DAW, comp plus outboard recording gear like mics and the like, there is nothing like that in reason (i am talking about the possibilty for enhancement), except a midi controller, you can't even record any of your maybee excisting sound module or hardwaresynth sounds you might have in your controller keyboard you use with reason!!??!! what the hell is this???, you need another apps to do that and import it into reason, or rewire... with yet... ANOTHER APPS. (more money spend here...)

    that said, reason cost's about 300 british pounds (sorry don't know the US pricing) for that money, i still believe and argue that money is better spend elsewhere in the domain of making music...

    ok, argue that some pros use it, that's right!, but keep in mind that those pros mainly do not pay for stuff like reason, just like me...
    and have also a real studio at hand, they, if they use it, use it for laying down quick and simple ideas on the road on laptops (mainly at least!)
    and then taking into a powerfull enviroment like logic or dp, etc...

    you see my point, for 300 pounds i can get progs like logic express or tracktion, ableton, which in my eyes all far superior to reason, ok, you have to spend a few bucks more on maybee plugs or softsynths (even there are some amazing good ones for free avialable... fishfillets, crystal to name but a few...)

    those progs propperly understood!!!!, used, and slowly build up will bring you much further and take you to a higher level of skills...

    by the way i am totally anoyed about version 3 of reason that it is a F87cking unbelivable CPU HOG, it's rediculous how much it strains the power for so little result, a complete joke!!! in my eyes. ok that might be that they will come up with more functions (and prepare for it already!) in further versions, it has to!! if they want to stay on the market...

    if the apps would cost a hundred bucks to play around on your PC fine, reason... super.

    time to wake up.

    axel junkuhn
     
  7. axel

    axel Guest

    oh, and i forgot...

    it's a similar issue with T-Racks, yes it works, no question at all, but i say it will bring you much further to get a propper editing / mastering prog and learn it and grow with it, including the possibility to enhance it as you go and have money for further investment into the same system...

    i call it FUTURE thinking. if you invest clever and with some passions, not to have all at once you will get eventuelly further...

    cheers
     
  8. baslotto

    baslotto Active Member

    I agree with everything you said about Reason. Since we are on RO you assume that people who ask about Reason want to use it for recording and that is not a good application.

    I use it for live electronic music and to lay down beats to integrate with instruments for pop music and I find it a useful "instrument". That's how I see Reason. An instrument. And the live environment is where the major developments where done for the 3.0 version as you know.

    The Adapted version can be found in any ProTools package, which is a DAW itself, so I was assuming that jahtao would use Reason as an instrument and not as a DAW since he already has PT.

    As I said, I agree with all the things that you said about Reason, and the price is actually very high.
     
  9. axel

    axel Guest

    peace, if you use reason mainly for live sessions and laying down beats...

    did you tried ableton yet?? if you have the chance... do it.
    this is truly an INSTRUMENT, plus recording facility... and the most stable prog i ever came across.

    just a tip!!


    cheers
    axel
     

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