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Recording a live track back into prerecorded tracks.

Discussion in 'Recording' started by cornsnap, Mar 15, 2007.

  1. cornsnap

    cornsnap Active Member

    Hello all,

    I have an Echo Layla 20 with 8 1/4" ins and outs including a L/R monitor outs. How would I go about playing something back I recorded and record with it without bleeding the live sound back into the recording.

  2. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Well-Known Member

    Ummmm, I think they're called headphones?

    Head Phony
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  3. vdrummer

    vdrummer Active Member

    Using a DAW how does latency come into play while doing this. Is it a problem? I not too sure about this issue and it is important for me to understand since I'm thinking of going to a computer based DAW recorder instead of a standalone system I have been using which has not latency problem.

  4. SuprSpy79

    SuprSpy79 Active Member

    latency is usually experienced when monitoring your LIVE(currently record enabled) outputs through DAW while tracking. You can avoid this by monitoring what you are recording from your board and then monitoring the pre-recorded tracks from the DAW.
  5. vdrummer

    vdrummer Active Member


    How do you do that? Do you mix the output of your DAW and the signal you are recording directly before it goes to the DAW?

    Thanks - Sorry for my latency deficiency!
  6. SuprSpy79

    SuprSpy79 Active Member

    pardon me while is speak mackie speak since thats the board im using :)

    but I monitor my 001 from the outputs of channels 1-2 into my board and put them in the left right mix. now say im recording guitar, I will put it in on channel 15 it goes into protools and back out of inputs 1-2, this is where the latency comes in. What i do is mute the channel in pro-tools (this just mutes the output not the input) and I enable channel 15 in the l/r mix which is real time.

    The only downside is if I run it through any effects before it hits protools I do not hear them, but that doesnt matter cuz I set that up while monitoring in PT first, then switch it around,
  7. vdrummer

    vdrummer Active Member


    So let me get this straight you said:

    Do you mean "back out of 001 or outputs 1-2 (not inputs)?

    So then you monitor the output of the 001 using output channels 1-2 of the 001 into the Mackie board. Then put your guitar in channel 15 but mute this in 001 mixer so the output does not come out to the board. I see what you are doing but wouldn't you still have latency from the channels playing back from the 001 you are playing too or is this actually in real time or put it another way no latency when you are playing the output of recored material. Just making sure I really understand this stuff which seems important.

    Another thing, does your mackie board have direct outs which you patch into your 001?

  8. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    What software are you using? There should be a monitoring option, check your manual for details.

    :cool: 8)
  9. vdrummer

    vdrummer Active Member

    Currently, I'm using Cakewalk Home Studio 2004 but may consider upgrading if this software isn't compatible with the audio interface I finally get. I use it to mix all my tracks I currently record with my standalone unit.
  10. bwmac

    bwmac Active Member

    If I understand you right,..??.. You want to record what you here coming out of the PC. If that's what you are asking then its easy.

    you have HS 2004 and you are using the on board audio.
    Cakewalk Home Studio 2004 is a great Program.

    click on start .....Now

    click on control panel

    find and double click on the speaker(sounds and audio devices)

    click on the audio tab and then on the recording sound audio volume bar

    cool eh, it brings up a recording console.

    click options and properties to ajust the size or componets that you want to record.

    OK now here is the trick, if you dont already know.

    A check mark in the stereo mix or wave box will record internal sound to your recording program. (you can record whatever you listen to)
    the line in and mic boxes of coarse need a check when useing them to record outside the PC.

    set the track in HS to wave and it will record what you play in media player or internal,
    as long as the stereo mix box is checked.

    Hint,.... turn the scheme sounds off.....in control panel
    also the internal volume and bass/treb controls are at the first vol tab

    now you can record a drum track from a downloaded recording on your PC, put the check mark from stereo mix to line in and play your guitar to the drums while recording just the guitar.

    hope this helped. let me know. Brad
  11. bwmac

    bwmac Active Member


    In home studio the latency is adjusted by the type of driver, and the buffer size. when you get it up and running/installed, start with the wma driver under (options, audio,) the lower the buffer the less latency but to little will cause stuttering. you have to close and restart HS every time you do this. don't get frustrated as the initial set up can be a beeaatch, LOL.
    E-mail me and I will walk you through it, which is more then I got.
    I would suggest the cakewalk forum would be your next stop to register so that you can find the common problem fixes. you will also need to update to the newest files, there are some nice FX

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