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Recording a three piece instrumental band with 2 mics - advi

Discussion in 'Microphones' started by afromoose, Feb 1, 2008.

  1. afromoose

    afromoose Active Member

    Feb 1, 2008
    Recording a three piece instrumental band with 2 mics

    Hi everyone

    I play in this band:


    and we're looking to do some recordings of new material.

    We've got new practice room with a nice acoustic and have some basic recording gear that we want to use to record demos. There's a recording on our myspace site (You and Me) which used two mics, which was recorded live in a venue - not exactly ideal and we set up the mics quite haphazardly.

    We'd like to use the two mic technique because we're quite a jazzy band and we want to pick up all the range in our sound - including the kit, which we'd like to have an open sound.

    Question is:

    we're using two CAD M179s - does anybody know the best way to set these up for a stereo recording? We're just recording bass, drums, guitar.

    we've also got at our disposal a rode nt1a in case it would be useful. The mics are going into a korg d3200

  2. BobRogers

    BobRogers Distinguished Member

    Apr 4, 2006
    Blacksburg, VA
    Since you have a pair of multipattern mics, you have a lot of options available to you. There is a lot of detailed information out there on the web, so I won't try to repeat it here. You should search the web for

    Stereo recording techniques
    Stereo microphone techniques

    You can search the web or this forum for the following two mic techniques
    M/S or MS or Mid/Side

    I would recommend that you try ORTF first - You put the mics 17 cm apart at a 110 degree angle from each other. I like Blumlein for solo instruments, but it might also work well for a trio. Anyway try them all. Moving mics around is free. (Though you will probably want to get a stereo bar, which is not.)
  3. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Cocoa, FL
    Giving credit where credit is due, Moonbaby posted a good site for you to check out:

    Innocent Ear

    Check out the links on the left, good pics and descriptions of various stereo techniques.
    They also have a good article on the Loudness War.
    Check it out!

    Originally Posted Here.
  4. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Distinguished Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    Their ORTF/Blumlein/MS descriptions are pretty good too.
    Only thing I don't like is how it complains about how engineers have gone from recording at 44kHz, to 48 and 96 and 192, when most people can't hear above 20KHz. Total information mismatch if ever there was one.
    Oh, and they blame engineers wanting to play with toys for ruining the way music sounds these days.

    But if you want to learn what the heck M/S micing is, by all means go there.
  5. afromoose

    afromoose Active Member

    Feb 1, 2008

    Thanks guys!!

    I will try those out!!!
  6. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Moderator

    Feb 23, 2005
    What was stated on the Innocent Ear site was that there is still the "boys with their toys" syndrome. This was regarding over-compressing and EQ'ing modern recordings of classical and jazz material (primarily). Recordings that are being played back on equipment that can easily handle much wider dynamic ranges.
    I would dare say that if you polled the professional mastering engineers out there, you'd get a ver similar response.

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