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Recording bass drum.

Discussion in 'Bass' started by dirty_garry, May 26, 2009.

  1. dirty_garry

    dirty_garry Guest

    Hello everybody!

    I have exciting question about recording bass drum. Assured a lot of You met this.

    Tinkling drum beater on drum head!!

    Ordinary drummers play on bass drum with pressing drum beater on the head and in that case beater provide little terrible tinkling sounds.

    Of course if drummer realy pros player he can controll this, play non pressing, with a good feeling and with a good sound, but usually ordinary drummers can't play so - they play like they can play))

    On our studio we have great sounding Sonor Designer kit. Usually I use 22" Remo Powerstroke 3 head with remo falam slam pad for more attack sound and drum pedal with felt beater. Miking by N/D868 on resonant head hole.

    Particularly this problems happen with rock styles where needs heavy heats and hight attack sound.

    How do You avoid this problem? Yours opinions and tips on this theme.
    Is it possible avoid this without gating or another processing?!
    I meen some process before recording exactly - tuning, magic, may be something else. Main- without loss of quality.

    Thanks!)
     
  2. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member

    Sorry can you discribe the problem one more time. Thanks!
     
  3. dirty_garry

    dirty_garry Guest

    When drummers are play pressing strike on bass drum after the strike drum beaters provide little jingling. Very very quiet but it's smear the sound and microfone hear it well.

    It's like when you take drum stick and hit the snare drum with press. You hear jinging or in drums it's call 'buzz'.


    That theme about this and how to avoid this :)



    I hope I correct express myself) my speaking english is not so good yet)))
     
  4. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Hey, Garry:

    Welcome to RO. I do feel obligated to explain to you that in the English language, "tinkling" has more than one meaning. "Tinkling" is what a little boy does in the bathroom... I sure hope that's NOT what your drums are doing!!! :lol:
    Are you referring to a rattle or "jingling" noise after the beater hits the head? Is it coming from the pedal itself, or from around the drum?
    You definitely need to determine WHERE that sound is coming from. Is it the chain on the pedal?
    Hopefully, it's not really "tinkling" !
     
  5. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    In English, "tinkling" and "jingling" both refer to high, metallic, bell-like tones. If that is accurate, I'd guess it is coming from the pedal hardware and you need to tighten, lubricate, adjust, repair, or replace the pedal. But this may be a translation problem. If so, keep at it. We'll figure it out eventually.
     
  6. dirty_garry

    dirty_garry Guest

    Oh)

    Thanks for helpful information about meaning certain words!=))

    It's not so easy for me to explain what do I meen:)


    That's not a pedal or hardware. Thats between beater and drum head exactly!

    For more understending what do I meen You can listen this kick drum sound example that was recorded on our studio.

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/asqrmw
    0.6Mb 3 seconds file.

    especially You can heat IT on first and last strokes!
    It's like a spreading the sound.
    tremble.
     
  7. Feverdream

    Feverdream Guest

    It could be from the flalam slam thing, but it's hard to tell from that sample.

    It just sounds like it needs properly EQing and Compressing.
     

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