Hi guys, I hope this would be the right place to ask. i am not running a pro studio anymore. I reduced it to home recording and i sold the acoustic drum kit years ago. I am mostly doing self amusement projects nan and time to time (almost probono) help young talented hard and heavy bands. I tried drum soundfonts back then. When virtual drummers emerged, i tried them too but i did not liked them either for three reasons. 1. I hate editting everything beat by beat 2. Outcome is "unrealistically" error free which you you feel in the very first measures they are virtual. 3. I maybe be biased as i know they are virtual but I do not feel them sound right. Two years ago i bought a Chinese made digital drum HXM HD10 to over come the problems 1-2 and hoped that either it would sound real or i could do better with new generation plug-ins applied over it. Although i can play drums very decently i am not a drummer. My playing usually starts to suck after 130 bpm (especially in hard and heavy style). It has a built in ability to record my playing as midi and can be played back at higher tempos which is good for me but not enough. So i had been practicing to improve my drumming. I did not messed up with recording setups up until recently. Make things worse i have no clue how to make it. The specs are not what i was expected. Neither digital drummers nor distributors know much about the brand and the manufacturer neither provides support nor answers e mails. For the ones who are not familiar with the brand let me summarize its capabilities (recording wise). I do not know if these are common for other d-drums. i never tried a high end brand and this one exceeds the ones in the same price range. Sound -It has about 500 voices after firmware update. Additionally, it has several FX sounds and etnic percussion voices which i do not have any intention to use at the moment. You can create your own drum kit using different voices. Each kit contains 17 playable voices it is up to you how to configure. Many of the preset kits are sounding very real through headphones and PA. Yet, you can further fine tune every voice you assing. Waveform, pitch, depth, reverb, sensitivity (for dynamic range) and 3 band parametric EQ, individual volume, panning. In terms of sound i would happily record it as it is with mics in a real studio. I/Os -This is where i had problem. The Specs in the ad and manual says USB recording. But it turned out that USB is only for Midi in/outs and data transfer in the form of midi (only works for firmware update). Although you can record your playing as song in the system and with an external midi device /DAW, you can not import songs from other sources to save in its user songs area. It can play back midi drum tracks coming from other sources but not any other instruments (expectable). On the other hand, the demo songs contains other instruments which also sound like a good sampled midi which is confusing. -Additionally conventional Midi in and out socket for recording and communication with other midi devices. I have some old midi keyboards and other synths but i do not think i will ever connect them. - Line in /out. Out= L+R stereo and L mono as usual. In. one stereo 1/4 jack -Headphone out -AUX in ( i do not know why they included this. It only works as an additional line in and only one of them works at a time) What i would like to achive -Thanks to recording capability and variable rec/play tempos i can play rather slow then record at up tempo to DAW while it plays back of its own. Still can be done. - When i first read "USB recording + Midi in/out" in specs i was expecting USB to send 8 channel digital (real sound) out to recording interface/DAW. In this case everything could have been recorded in their individual track in DAW. Additonal processing/editing could be done in DAW, just like acoustic drum recorded with seperate mics. Not have to squized in to channel 10 of DAW and no need to do "one for all editing" or suffer from midi sound limitations. My options I figured so far 1. It looks like the only way to get real sound is line outs. Direct recording from line outs to PC had never worked for me with my other devices. Distortion, lack of space definition etc. I had not make any trial recording yet. May work well this time. What bothers me most is, only two tracks for drums will be available. Which means i have to make all drum mixing arrangements even before recording and other track. a.There is no way to to know how all tracks will sound when finished that this is very very bad idea. Besides, interms of space perception, each track must contain a mixture of the sounds ie; treble drums, bass drums and bells. This means at editing/mastering stage at least on of them will suffer. b.This can be avoided by paning trebles to L and Basses to R but then the mix will suffer. 2. One other option allows recording 8 track real sound (Not only 8 but unlimited tracks can be recorded this way). Muting everything but one and record everything one by one. But there is three problems i do not like. a. This will take too much time even if everything works great in the first attempts. b. As each track will be recorded one by one and manually an there will be sync problems. If the sync problem occurs only at the starting times i can handle it by cropping the access and sync them all. 10 minutes of extra work. What i am not sure if there will be a drop during the playback in the D drum or recording in the PC. In order to be sure i had to listen carefully for lags and compare the wave forms of all tracks. (I suffered once in one of my songs which had to send in for an international project. See lesson of the day below if you are intrested :=) ) c. I do not know how d- drums should normally sound like when recorded (Yeah same as i hear it in the room :=)) That i may not be able to diagnose the problem whether it comes from line recording, wrong settings etc. Correcting without knowing the cause is not possible. So please... If you know the brand/similar devices or any other solution please help me with this. (If you suggest midi +plug ins beware that i am a bit conservative in this league and I have not followed what has changes for several years. I may ask lots of additional questions). For now I am planning to take the risk again and go with the option 2. Thanks in advance. Bonus lesson of the dayfacepalm As i mention above i made a one big mistake in the past with drums which i am still ashamed. I had to send several songs for an international project. We were all late for the due date and communication was a problem because of time difference between continents. It happen in the song i wrote for then my GF, wife. As i was to ashamed, i hated the song which both used to love while raw. I never wanted to revisit and correct the problem. This is what went wrong... I was asked to send one additional song in the very last minute. So i decided to send the one that was still "in process". The final bass and drums were not recorded. Instead, there were only the raw skeleton versions recorded as que for other track. I recorded the bass at once. But i had only three mics available that day. I had to record drums in three takes in order to be able to record 8 tracks, different parts mic'ed everytime. Just tweaked the tracks briefly. Small edits here and there. I was going to send them my own mix for reference and project file and dry and processed versions of each track anyway. So i sent them all at once after finishing my reference mix. The deadline was also to short for Mixing/Mastering guys. As my quick mix was very decent for their liking too, they decided to master my version of the mix and save time for other problematic ones. What we all missed was not only the whole drums were slighly out of sync with rest of the tracks but also hi hat was getting out and in sync with other drums. The problem which was not easily detectable in mix, had become detectable even for deafs after mastering. Guess what? It found its way to get in to the CD that way. We only realized it when people started make fun of it around the world. It was horrible and I do not want to make the same mistake.