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recording guitar amps

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by rudedogg, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. rudedogg

    rudedogg Guest

    I really enjoyed the bass amp thread, so i thought it would be fun to have another thread on recording guitars. i guess im being selfish and i want this for my own benefit, but lets talk about music styles and whatnot.

    im gonna be recording guitar that is in the style of radiohead and the pixies, some ethereal sounding with lots of effects, some really clean fender/vox style guitar, and some distorted guitar (but not metal/punk)

    this is the chain i am considering (it's what i've been doing in the past with good luck), and just wanted to see what everyone else is doing.

    ibanez hallow body into 2002 fender hot rod deville:
    mics -> sm57 off center pointing straight into the speaker about 2" off the cloth into a 7th circle api clone (A12) into an FMR RNC (supernice mode) into frontier tango24 converter and then into protools.

    also a groove tubes gt-55 on the other speaker 2" from the cloth, into the A12 into an RNC into converter and protools

    recording the vox amp will be the same but substituting the fender amp for vox, and the ibanez guitar for a gibson sg.

    the other mics available to me are studio projects c3, akg c1000, c3000, 57s, octava mk012s, atm25, d112, akg 451, an earthworks mic (can't remember model, looks like an electric toothbrush).

    i would love to use a royer 121, but nobody in town will let me borrow or rent one. i could go to LA to rent, but doesn't seem worth the hassle.

    Anyone else have some methods to contribute? I would love to hear some other ideas.

    This recording is going to be our debut EP, and there are some interested record labels, so we want to make it amazing...
     
  2. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Your chain sounds like its gonna work well for you...For a bit different sound, substitute the SM57 with the Audio Technica ATM25, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the clarity as well as the body you'll gain especially through anything API'ish.This wont tend to be a heavy kind of sound that you cant do anything with at mix.Another cool trick to try would be the M/S micing with the SP C3...thats got a fig 8 doesnt it? Put at in the back of either amp with the null at the center and the two diaphrams facing the outsides of the amp.Run this signal through your pre as well as your closemic in the front...pick the best speaker for your single close mic...get the amp in middle of your room and get it off the floor. Justa simple trick....sometimes its what you want...I like it for that jangly tele sound....always check for phase....
     
  3. rudedogg

    rudedogg Guest

    im not familiar with the m-s techniques. don't i need some sort of decoder for this? how do i pan it?

    also what are people's thoughts on a sennheiser 421 in lieu of the 57?

    thanks!
     
  4. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Stick a dynamic mic on the back of the amp and give it a good squeeze. The rear of the deville can give you a pretty ethereal to for the rightne to slip under the front mics in the mix. The phase issues can work to your advantage for the right song.

    My .02

    Chris
     
  5. Mario-C.

    Mario-C. Active Member

    "what are people's thoughts on a sennheiser 421 in lieu of the 57?"

    I prefer the 421
     
  6. WRX07

    WRX07 Guest

    Together they sound really good...
     
  7. RecorderMan

    RecorderMan Distinguished Member

    I prefer a 121 but the sm57 is fine..just fined the best spot after moving it around. I'd forget the compressor. An amp acts as a compressor of sorts.
     
  8. J-3

    J-3 Active Member

    It depends a lot on song arrangement but lots of times for this type of guitars you can just use one room mic and get a lot done. It just depends on what type of field of depth your trying to achieve. I think too many people close mic too much stuff. Get the mics back, let the room have something to say and listen to how easy your track is to mix. (if you do it right that is) heh heh heh.....Just use your ears.....this is the fun part.
     

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