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Recording guitar through Line 6 POD

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by supercharry, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. supercharry

    supercharry Guest

    Hi everyone, Ive got a client who wants his guitar reorder through a Line 6 POD, with no amp........... Ive never recorded an electric guitar with no amp as its done sometimes with a bass guitar. What do you think of this?? I told this guy its always better micing (or miking, however its spelled) the amp with one or more mics, you can get some ambience, but he insists..........................

    Is it a good option to record an Electric Guitar this way??

    Thanks
     
  2. McCheese

    McCheese Well-Known Member

    I've done a few things through the PODxt. Not my first choice either, but I use it a lot for writing stuff late at night, and getting tones I can't get through my limited amp collection (1 amp). My recommendation is to turn off the compressor in the unit. Sure, they say it's a model of the LA-2A, but whatever, it sounds like ass when tracked to disk. A small, mono "drum room" type 'verb can add a little more substance to the track as well I've found.
     
  3. CoyoteTrax

    CoyoteTrax Well-Known Member

    Track it for him and then re-amp it after the session is over and let him hear the A/B the next day.

    A PODxt DI won't cut it but they sound grrrreat re-amped IMO.
     
  4. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Hell, plug the Pod into a little Fender amp and show him what he's been missin'!! If he won't do that, re-amp it, baby!
     
  5. supercharry

    supercharry Guest

    Yeah, Thats what I thought, nothing like getting the signal from the mics. Ill convince him, I think its impossible for him not to notice the difference,

    thank you guys
     
  6. PERRANFULO

    PERRANFULO Guest

    suggestion

    how about running the guitar through a direct box and splitting the signal (one to amp, another to line 6)???
     
  7. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    DI a "dry"electric guitar!?!?!?!?
    That's like putting GW's head on Paris Hilton's body!
    Like spaghetti with no sauce!
    Cook that puppy through an amp and eat it up!
     
  8. RAIN0707

    RAIN0707 Guest

    I usually run my guitar to a DI box and thru to a miked halfstack. I take the balanced out to my preamp for reamping later if I decide that the sound of the guitar could be better but the performance was good. This way I don't have to perform a perfect take all over again and now I can concentrate on reamping and finding that sweet spot or a better sound I hadn't got the first time. :)
     
  9. huub

    huub Guest

    Depends on the music though..
    I recorded this techno-metal band, and they thought my guitar sound was too 'rough'and 'real' sounding, they wanted a more artificial sound, so I advised them to put some layers of pod underneath..
    If you layer a couple of pods, the sound'll become reallllly plastic..
    Wouldn't be my choice, but, hey...
     
  10. DJ FADE

    DJ FADE Guest

    i'm also working with somebody who wants to do this. could somebody briefly explain "re-amping"?
     
  11. Jbon

    Jbon Guest

    "Pod negates the need for direct box?" or not?

    I am, or was convinced that the "pod" might be a worthy investment
    for anyone such as me, and folks here too,
    (thinking about)wanting an effect/amp-sim input-box...of somekind..and let me admit I was originally prompted by knowing that which my "buzz" tells me.....
    I must have a "ground repair product" at the very least.
    I am about to reveal my sillyassumptive capability...
    would it be too much to hope that a "pod" might also serve for the ground correcttion-type product while doing its stated purpose?
    or, If I needed a ground loop correction device such as a directbox, etc and instead got myself a pod, would I still then need the first item?

    Surely pod has the ground under control)=bad assumption??

    I mean I really expect that if I get an answer from an experienced person as hoped I will be told that any assumption is a bad one.. but I still have my silly hopes way up... this is 2005 after all...?anyone with me?
    whats the scoop for:
    direct box "need"/vs. "pod" purchase/whether ground is still "off" with the new "pod"
    if I learn that I'd still prolly need a directbox even after the purchase and incorporation of a new "pod".. I can just get by only with the directbox! I can use other goodies but this 60 cycle buzz is by far my main concern today..... any degree of heed is appreciated

    "Pod negates the need for direct box?" or not?

    thank you
     
  12. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect Active Member

    Re: "Pod negates the need for direct box?" or not?

    Does POD negate need for DI box? No.

    I can't understand whetever else you are trying ask about. Could you rephrase or something?
     
  13. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    If your client like the POD ... use it. It's their dime. On the other hand, I hate PODs and all other "Slime Sux" products.

    A small collection of thoughts regarding Line 6 products;

    I bought a Line 6 amp new... hardly ever used it ... it failed. I had it fixed and sold it to a friend ... it failed again ... same thing again the tech told us.

    I had a friend, who bought a Line 6 .... it crashed all the time, loseing his programs. What a POS. In fact, perhaps they made a mistake when they call those things the "POD" ... maybe they meant POS.

    The best sound I ever heard from any Line 6 product was the sound of it hitting the dumpster.
     
  14. blaumph2cool

    blaumph2cool Active Member

    I've had my POD for years, and it hasn't failed once on the hundred's of gigs/sessions. I know lots of people that have good experiences with Line6 products.

    As far as the sound, its a bit different then a good cab.
    sometimes I track with my Line6, sometimes I track with a Miced Cab.
    It all depends on the song and what sound i am looking for.
    IMO, the POD puts out some good sounds. but can sound plastic if you don't use it correctly.

    Line6 is deffenately processed, but i its hands down the best Amp Sim i've heard,.

    -Blaumph
     
  15. CoyoteTrax

    CoyoteTrax Well-Known Member

    It's definitely the best amp sim I've ever heard too. But that's just my opinion and everybody's got one of those.

    Where I find it most beneficial is to be used as an effects processor out to an amp. The delays and modulation effects are very cool and when you output the audio to a nice tube amp a POD can really work some mojo.

    I use a Line 6 Guitar Port sometimes for it's delays, wah effects, reverbs, and amp head simulation out to small wattage tube amps for a combination of the "grand ole" and "the new".

    I also like it when I'm adding slide work for ambient guitar work and just use the auio outputs right to my soundcard for the lush and quiet ambient sounds it can produce.

    I've never had a days trouble with it in 2 years.

    It depends on what kind of music you're making as to whether or not it's useful. I've seen plenty of professional groups use Line 6 heads and cabs onstage and get amazingly kick-a$$ tone. Queensryche had a group opening for them on a recent tour that used Line 6 amps and cabs and although everyone was anxious to have the Ryche come onstage, nobody really wanted these guys to stop playing, LOL. Great guitar sounds.

    Like everything else, if it works for you, nobody can tell you "it doesn't work" for you. :cool:
     
  16. Johnjm22

    Johnjm22 Guest


    The power supply on my POD has gone out 3 times!

    The Pod has it uses though, it's great for scratch tracks.
     
  17. RAIN0707

    RAIN0707 Guest

    Here is just my reviews on a lot of these amp sim's like the POD. I have used:

    Line 6 Pod
    Line 6 Pod 2.0
    Line 6 Bass Pod
    Line 6 Pod Pro
    Line 6 Pod XT
    Line 6 Amp Farm
    Behringer V-amp
    Boss GT-6
    Boss Gt-6B
    Digitech RP300
    Johnson J-Station

    Out of all these devices the ONLY one that could give me the sound of my miked up Peavey JSX tube amp and 4x12 cab was the Johnson J-Station. Which is really funny cause I picked it up for like 80 bucks off ebay on a whim. I recommend it to anyone. It does a great job of giving you the "feel" of playing through a real amp. It has dynamic-controlled tone. Just like my tube amp. If you pick harder while playing the tone changes accordingly. I am not saying this is all I would record with. You just cannot beat a miked up amp and cab but it definitely is a good tool. Great for re-amping, great for late-night sessions where noise is an issue. I think out of all these devices I have used over time the J-Station is the only one I could and would consider using for my entire guitar sound on a track if I had to. It's the only one that sounds and feels like the real thing to me. Just my thoughts.
     
  18. Jbon

    Jbon Guest

    Re: "Pod negates the need for direct box?" or not?

    Does POD negate need for DI box? No.

    I can't understand whetever else you are trying ask about. Could you rephrase or something?[/quote]


    this is plenty... I appreciate that the main idea was understood... 'that nothing else was, is of negligible consequence.
    thank you very much
     
  19. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    DJFade:
    You asked what "re-amping" is. It's where you track a musical instrument (say, a guitar) and you play that track back into an amp.
    Many folks out there like the control and options this affords. You can, concievably, take a clean, dry guitar track and then blast it through an amp. This usually requires that you use a DI to take that line level out of the console (or soundcard) and attenuate it so that it is more like a guitar pick-up signal. Then you mic that amp. The new Millennia Media TD-1 is the king for that.
    I personally feel that a player should generate the tone that he/she wants to achieve WHILE PLAYING! I can't think of 1 guitar player I've recorded who would be willing to play "clean"and then let me nasty it up a bit. There's just too much interaction between the artist and their amp. Having said that, I LOVE to re-amp other stuff like organs, synths, and even the occasional snare or vox track. I even use an old Leslie speaker I drive with a Sunn amp to do that. Anything goes, baby!
     
  20. perfectwave

    perfectwave Guest

    I have the pod xt pro, and i use it a lot. I do a live reamp of guitars....sounds killer. I plug the guitar into the the front of the pod in the regular input, then on the dry guitar out (on the back of the pod ) I run a signal back to the amp in the tracking room, and mic the cabinet, running both seprate signals into my daw. It takes a little time but you can really tune the sound (I usually try to find something on the pod that compliments the "real" guitar sound). Track them seprately and you can mix accordingly later. One thing that is a need to know is you WILL run into a ground loop buzz, when you do, flick the ground lift switch on the amp only (not the pod), or if your amp doesent have a ground lift switch, find a way to break the connection of the 3rd prong of the amp plug. So far everytime this technique yields excellent phat guitar results.
     

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