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recording thrash metal vocals

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by Gertok, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    Our band is going to record a demo of the whole album to make sure we like all arrangements, before we go to the studio and go broke.
    We steel want it to sound as good as possible.
    In the past we made guitars and drums sound good with no problems. But vocals always seem to be the problem. Hour singer sound kind of like James from metallica in the puppets, ajfa era. But we never managed to make it sit in the mix right. What does it sound like to you they did to make it work?

    Thank you
     
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    What mic are you using to record the vocals? Hetfield of Metallica always used dynamic mics to record his vocals, specifically the SM7b. If you are trying to reproduce his sound using a condenser you just won't get it.
     
  3. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    we have sm57, sm58, e609, EV NV??? (kick drum)
    We used sm58 all these times before
     
  4. HemlokSociety

    HemlokSociety Active Member

    Also if your not super experienced at mixing its gonna be hard to get the vocals to sit well in the mix if the other instruments are already mixed down. Try and do it all at once, and carve out a nice hole for the vox to fit, and compress to hell. Sounds easy....

    But yea Hetfield is all about that Sm7b mic.
     
  5. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    I know about sm7b, but we decided to go to the studio and pay a $*^t load of money, so there is no sense in buying 400-500 mic prior to that.
     
  6. HemlokSociety

    HemlokSociety Active Member

    Also, how dense is your mix? How many tracks before vocals?
     
  7. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    For this demo it will be 2 guitars left 2 right leads bass drums back vocals
     
  8. HemlokSociety

    HemlokSociety Active Member

    Are all those tracks mixed down already, or do you still have to track?
     
  9. Gertok

    Gertok Guest

    We are tracking them this and next week
     
  10. HemlokSociety

    HemlokSociety Active Member

    Well after you get done with all the instruments and its time to do vocals, just try and experiment with the placement of the microphone...I'd start with the 57 or 58. If you use the 57 use a pop screen. But try the other mics too, you never know what may make that vocal stand out in the mix.

    If all else fails come mixdown time, really eq everything else around the vocal and compress to hell like I said before..Maybe a little delay as well.
     
  11. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Why doesn't the vocal sound like you want? What is the room like? Size/walls/treatment/etc. Can we hear a clip when the mix is down to hear what you don't like about it? It would really help.

    Plus what are you using to monitor? I recently found out that my monitors were 'creating' audio artifacts that weren't there so I was EQing my tracks to death when they didn't need it, thus creating horrible sounding mixes. Good monitors are an often overlooked link in the chain of audio production/reproduction.

    9/10ths of good engineering is in the technique in the sense that most problems are user error. Getting the source sound right will always sound better than trying to process it later. Just something to think about.
     

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