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recording using 7 piece drum mic kit

Discussion in 'Drums' started by KrisA, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. KrisA

    KrisA Guest

    Hey all. I am new to the forum and even though I have been playing guitar and drums for a while I am new to recording. Anyway, I was looking into picking up this mic kit to help record drum tracks for my music
    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Digital-Reference-DR-DRM7-7-Piece-Drum-Mic-Kit-with-Case-103727673-i1126622.gc

    Figure it's cheap and it must be better than the one, 10 year old sure mic I use to record drums now...

    Anyway, my problem is figuring out HOW i'd use these to record on my limited budget with my home recording gear. A friend of mine works for columbia records and sometimes brings over some of his portable mixing tables ect... to help record my band, but my concern is recording using my own stuff.

    All I have is a mobile pre (M Audio) pre amp with two mic ports and I record using garage band. Any ideas on what I can do to make the best out of this drum mic kit? Would I/should I just break down and get a multi track recording pre amp?

    thanks!!!
     
  2. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Leave 5 of these in the box.
    Float one above the kit someplace and put one on the bass drum.
     
  3. KrisA

    KrisA Guest

    thanks for your reply! That sounds good, I really hoped to use them all to get the best possible quality but I am guessing being these mics are MADE specifically for drums that even two will sound a lot better than my old regular mic trying to get all of them through 1.

    If I did want to use them all, what would I need? I'm not sure how this works, I am guessing i'd need a pre-amp with more than 7 inputs? Would something like this work
    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tascam-US-1641-10-channel-Audio-MIDI-USB-2-0-Computer-Interface-104640081-i1368640.gc

    or is there a cheaper way?

    thanks again
     
  4. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    That is the idea, an eight channel interface though I would suggest you use one that has firewire capability if compatible with your computer and check that your computer is in the upper end of the specs listed for whatever unit. There are a tremendous number of pros that actually prefer to go with some variation on the 4 mic system, two overheads, one kick, one snare as the way to get a great drum sound.
    {old-link-removed} this thread is from a few weeks ago it is almost this exact question. :D
     
  5. KrisA

    KrisA Guest

    JG, thank you for your time! I just read that thread and what I took out of it is that it'll probably take me a while just to get the hang of 4 mics. Can I use 4, simultaneously with my mobile pre? It has two mic jacks and two regular line jacks, but they there are only two channels so I am guessing it's either/or, you can't use all 4 combined?

    Also, what reason is a firewire better than than USB? I noticed the one you listed in that other thread was firewire, but that is out of the price range for me...actually the $299 one I listed with USB2 is just about out of the price range after I buy the drum mics :lol:
     
  6. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    The line jacks will either override the mic jacks and will be immensely quiet so you'll have to boost the level of the recordings (leaving you with lots of static) ...OR... the lines will mix with the mic jacks leaving you with quiet junk in the background of your mic signals.

    Mics are not equal to line inputs, they need a preamp first.

    Using 4 mics, yeah great if you have the kit. But if you have very few mics or inputs to screw around with (like me) then one overhead (pointed almost directly at the snare) and one bass drum mic can be made to work. If it proves to not be enough, you can always extend to more inputs later on.

    (edit: I meant inputs, not mics)
     
  7. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    If the price is too much you might look on feebay for a Presonus FP10 or something similar, they seem to be going for 200-250.00 they are $400.00 new. That Tascam unit may be fine, don't know, USB does not have the transmission speed of firewire. Your Mobile Pre is a 2x2 unit meaning 2 in and 2 out only. The only other way was described in that thread, using a mixer to sum to stereo.
     

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