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ReCycle?

Discussion in 'Recording' started by capitancarajo, May 18, 2001.

  1. I was trying to achieve a loop darwing tool (like Acid) within Nuendo or Cubase and remembered ReCycle did some work with loops but actually never tried or knew exactly how ReCycle works... then I go to Steinberg's site for info and there's no ReCycle anymore. The question to you Steinberg users should have been inicially "What is ReCycle?", but guess I must ask "What was ReCycle?"... or was it replaced or updated to a newer product?
    Thanks
    Capi
     
  2. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Steinberg is no longer distributing Proppellerhead software...MIDIMAN has taken that over...Recycle is a software that takes loops and finds the appropriate transients and slices the loops around those attacks..thus now you can take each individual "slice" and pan,pitch shift,transpose, etc etc...when you take a loop in Recycle and then save it as a "rex" file..which is a Recycle file you can thus import that into Cubase and be able to put each "slice" to it's own track..or you can use the "rex" file in Reason in the Dr Rex loop player..I dont think Nuendo can import Rex files as of yet but I havent actually tried it since I use Reason in conjunction with Nuendo...
    Recycle is still available tho and a new version is coming out very very soon!!
    Check it out http://www.propellerheads.se/index.php3
    Opus
     
  3. Thanks for the input, I heard a lot of this Reason... how is it going with it? What is it for? I obviously will visit the site but, as a user, why do you prefer this one over Cubase?
    Cheers
    Capi
     
  4. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    I choose Nuendo over Cubase for several reasons..one being that it was FREE!!! Got to love NFR's(Not For Resale)
    The main reason being that it has sooooo many more features that arent even close to being included in Cubase..such as Surround panning..sample level editing..automation of just about every feature..better sounding code..ability to compose music to AVI and many other computer video formats..It's just plain better!!
    Reason is an amazing program that allows you to create ambient techno/loop based music in the background with Nuendo or Cubase via Rewire..no need to use an extra sound card since the audio goes right thru Nuendo or Cubase..this way you can add fx or change audio levels right from within Nuendo or Cubase!
    I love the combination of Reason and Nuendo..it's a powerhouse combo! At least IMHO it is! Everyone has their own prefs..I like the fact that I can create odd tempo patterns with Reason...programs like Fruity Loops cant do odd time..you're stuck with 4/4..at least the last time I played with it that was the case..anyways..download the demo for Reason and check it out..most people are very very happy with it
    Opus
     
  5. That seems to be the combo I'm also looking for. About the pros Nuendo has over Cubase you're absolutely righ (if you're not too MIDI). I installed Cubase and inmediately unistalled it after making some trials. Nuendo definetely rules, but BTW I can't put audio into video yet. I can make it match perfectly but can't save the whole product or even have succes trying to use the "replace audio" comand in export file. Also, it's not possible to work with more than one video file at a time, or can't make the video viewer a little bigger. Well, after all we're talking about an audio software... but definetely would be nice not to have those problems.

    Capi
     
  6. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    Yes...I have come across not being able to add the audio to video as well..I dont do much Video stuff so I havent concentrated on it..I'm just wondering if it is a "known" bug by them..I havent checked out the known bugs in a while so I couldnt tell you off hand but will look into it!
    Only one video can be played at a time..as far as making the viwer bigger just go into the device setup and change the video size! I have issues with the video player when doing an audio-midi project..if I open a AVI to Sound project it works fine..no problems.
    Usually if one tries Cubase and Nuendo the tendency is to keep Nuendo..MIDI is limited as you noticed but as you stated this is an audio software that rocks the planet! Hope you enjoy it and if you have any questions feel free to ask
    Opus
     
  7. Hi Opus, thanks a lot for replying to my questions. Today evening I'll try to replace audio to a an mpeg file which contained audio originally to see if it's possible just to "replace" and not to "add" audio to a video file. I know, it sounds silly but I'll try it anyway. BTW and just in case you're using a mastering program, maybe Sound Forge or Wavelab (I recently decided to switch from SF to WL), Did you notice that the waveforms look drastically different from one program to another? In sound Forge, as well as in Nuendo, mastered files look well compressed and tight (which tells about well done mastering compression and stuff), but the same files opened in Wavelab show peaks and dynamics entirely different from what I saw in the rest of programs (Cakewalk, Sonar, Nuendo, Cubase, SF, etc.) I don't get it. Excuse me I'm asking this to you at a Nuendo forum but I actually asked thid question from about a week ago to every wavelab forum or group and no answers at all... thought you could know something about this. After all everybody uses a mastering app, and we Nuendo users use to prefer Steinberg.
    Hope this is not a bug, cause it seems not to be one, but if you know something, please, I'm all ears (eyes).
    Thanks again and have fun too.
    Capi
     
  8. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    No porblem about asking questions like that..this doesnt neccessarily have to be a strict Nuendo forum..I guess it's really a Steinberg forum!
    I havent touched Sound Forge in a loooong time since I got Wavelab..Wavelab IMHO is far better than Sound Forge..again..it's only my opinion! I have noticed tho that the waveforms are indeed different looking in each program..it has to do with image files and so forth and what fx you have added to them. Each program draws the waveform in a different way and you have the ability to stretch or expand the picture to represent it in a way that suits you better. I have been actually using the Mastering program within Nuendo..I really like it's interface since it relates the main audio part of it and keeps the same feel to work in. After using that I then bring the files into Wavelab for any final touches and then burn it to a CD.
    Good luck with the Mpeg audio test and please let me know how it goes
    Opus
     
  9. Hi Opus, I'm writing from the radio station right now, I'll surely make some tests at home later. To be honest, I still don't understand why the waveforms are measured that different in dB, but guess it's OK not to understand it completely. Sound Forge offered kind of good tools each upgrade and, since I'm used to certain waveform looks, I got surprised with Wavelab (for its cool features more than for the odd waveforms, really). After all, I'm glad it's not a bug, just have to get used to it. But you're right (at least that's my opinion too): Wavelab feels better than Sound Forge. BTW, I haven't thought on Nuendo as master program... of course! It can perfectly do it. But just one thing: how do you watch the real time spectrum analisys for each song?

    Thanks for your help.

    All the best

    Capi
     
  10. Opus2000

    Opus2000 Well-Known Member

    I dont have my system setup but I do believe there is a built in plugin that does that in Nuendo..check it out..I havent messed with it in a bit so I'm a little shaky on describing what it does. Also it was my big 3-0 Bday and went out last night with my buddies here in LA and went to strip bar...lots o whiskey..margarita's..beer..and much more..so brain be a little fried this wonderful morning!! LOL!!
    Opus
     
  11. Replacing the audio in a video file does not work in Nuendo.

    Christofer Columbus
     
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