Removing Guitar String Buzz with software

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by rwogh, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. rwogh

    rwogh Active Member

    In many of my recordings (mostly quieter or acoustic songs) there is a good amount of string buzz that is unrelated to the playing and simply comes from the string rattle getting picked up by the pickup or mic.

    I can live with the noise, but would rather have the option to minimize it.

    I'm wondering what a good way to go about removing and, more likely, lessening this is. I've tried some EQ'ing, but it hasn't done as good of a job as I'd hoped.
     
  2. GregLarson

    GregLarson Guest

    what software are you using to remove string buzz?
     
  3. rwogh

    rwogh Active Member

    pro tools LE, digi 003 rack
     
  4. GregLarson

    GregLarson Guest

    cool beans, i use the same only a 002 rack, have you tried lowering the cue and sweeping the top of your eq to find exatly where those bad frequencies are hiding?
     
  5. rwogh

    rwogh Active Member

    a little bit, but it didn't get me very far. what do you mean by lowering the cue?
     
  6. GregLarson

    GregLarson Guest

    My mistake, i meant Q, idk y i spelled it like that haha. but on the pro tools 7 band eq insert, there is a dial on each frequency control that is called q, lower that dial all the way to the left on your yellow channel. then raise the yellow dot on your eq alllll the way to the top. when the q is all the way down the specific channel of your eq will only effect a very small range of frequencies. Loop a part where your string buzz is noticably bad, and move the yellow dot (still at the top) left and right (you'll hear a phaserish sound) and when you find a point(s) where all you hear is buzzing or ringing, lower those frequencies until that sound is reduced or eliminated from your sound. Thats one thing i do on all of my tracks to make sure im getting a nice pure sound. I hope that helps a little
     
  7. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    The best way is simply to raise the action on the guitar. I know it's nice to have low action but if the string buzz is a problem, you're better off with a little higher action for better tone.
     
  8. GregLarson

    GregLarson Guest

    are you talking about electric or acoustic? or do you have buzz problems on both?
     
  9. rfahey86

    rfahey86 Guest

    Definitely raise the action a little. Find out which frets are buzzing and raise the action enough to make it stop. Make sure to check you intonation afterward.
     
  10. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    You can send the track to someone like me who has spectral editing software, I'll clean it up and send it back to you or.... use a DAW that has the software I use
    examples of DAW's and a cross thread for more on this...: Sequoia or iZotope

    here is how we do it:
     
  11. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    http://recording.org/threads/removing-fret-squeaks-from-an-acoustic-guitar-track.6703/

    Never looked at this one but I will now....

    Or go here for more on Samplitude Tips and Tricks

    http://recording.org/threads/samplitude-tricks-and-tips.57866/
     
  12. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    You could also use Melodyne to remove the fret sounds, with the DNA technology you can get inside chords and isolate each note.
     
  13. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Thanks for sharing that!
    True but unless it's been updated it's not in the same depth to what you can do with spectral editing software.
    Melodyne, which I use both studio and the plugin are both excellent but very cpu intensive. The software also recreates a wave rather than allowing us to tweak the original wave, thus duplicating and adding the need to run in the background.

    But yes, Melodyne is another option!
     
  14. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

  15. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    How long is it until there's a fret noise generator, plugin. "To add that authentic human feel to your recordings. Today." Lmao I can hear the ad in my head.

    I love this forensic editing. The more automated problem solving tools are the better imo. As long as they work, I'd rather not tweak them at all.
     
  16. thatjeffguy

    thatjeffguy Active Member

    I use iZotope Spectral Repair plugin for this type of thing. Most fret noise I leave in, that's how a guitar sounds! I only apply editing when the noise is particularly loud or ill-timed.
    The iZotope suite of plugins is an invaluable toolbox. I often apply the denoiser plug to totally remove hums or background ambient noise.
    ~Jeff
     
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  17. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I'm with you Jeff, in fact I've never removed a fret or string slide on my performances. If they are there, its because I wanted it lol!
    I do however remove and edit endlessly for others as mass requests the perfect world but never for my own personal work. I even leave the odd tuning discrepancy or intonation suspects because thats how guitars sound. But, as pro's know, we buy an instrument that was measured right in the design and has a good neck etc. We learned years ago how to play and tune so this is really coming from the need of the new generation feeling we all need to sound like pop electronics.

    Spectral Editing is amazing though. I do love it but more for other reasons.

    I'm with you.
     

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