Reverb sends not working for me.

Discussion in 'Tracking / Mixing / Editing' started by Guitarfreak, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I'm doing something wrong, because it's not working.

    I create a separate track (Mono) set to input Bus 1 and outputs 1 and 2. Then I call up the tracks I want to reverberize and have them send to Bus 1. I option click the little wheel that shows up so I get a send attenuation of 0dB. On the reverb bus I get rid of the dry signal and adjust the wet to the desired level, except I hear nothing.

    Side question, can you use more than one plug on a single send bus?
     
  2. NCdan

    NCdan Guest

    Why are you adding the same reverb to every track? You can't just add reverb to each individual track? One reverb setting isn't the best way to do it. Unless you want to put reverb on the whole track in mastering, but I only do that when my friends send me their crappy wav files they want me to somehow magically fix.
     
  3. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Nahh, not the whole thing, or else I would just lay it on the master track. Just say every guitar track. Or every vocal track. Hence using sends, as it is more convenient than tweaking each individual track then copy/pasting to other tracks.
     
  4. NCdan

    NCdan Guest

    Putting a variation on the reverb for each guitar track helps separate/thicken the guitars, just like pitch shifting or offsetting the peaks. More work for you (barely), but a better product in the end. Just how many guitar tracks are you doing, anyway?

    Every vocal track? I wouldn't use the exact same reverbs for lead and backing vox. Similar but not the same.
     
  5. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    My current project has 4, all copy pasted because they were not recorded to a click track. But it's a cover so idc.
     
  6. soapfloats

    soapfloats Well-Known Member

    I used to put reverbs on every track.
    I stopped, not because it was a PITA to do it on each of the necessary channels, but rather b/c I wanted to have the L dry send to the R verb and vice versa, for stereo imaging.

    Now I tend to group similar elements to the same send (like one guitar part, another gui part, backup vox - but that's usually a stereo verb). That's b/c I'm often dealing with a single guitar that's multi-miked and a single gui/key that's multi-miked.

    So I often setup a Left & Right (instruments), and mono center or stereo verb (vocals) aux/fx channel in those situations.
    Otherwise, unless it's really taxing your CPU, I prefer to set individual verbs.

    Like anything else in recording/mixing, you're going to have to make some comprises. Unless you have a lot of $$$ or the years and knowhow to build it right.
     
  7. pr0gr4m

    pr0gr4m Well-Known Member

    You've got the right idea GF...I don't know why it's not working though. I don't have the software you use...cuz I can't option-click anything. :)

    NCdan - Separate reverb on every individual track? Egads man. I hope you are using some good quality reverbs. ;)
     
  8. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Guitarfreak - Sounds like you are doing the right thing. What DAW are you using again?

    Are you muting the original (send) tracks and just trying to listen to the reverb track? Muting the original track will mute the send. Faders up on both the send track and the reverb track?

    NCDan - Using different reverbs of different tracks makes it sound like the instruments are in different "rooms." There's no right or wrong here, but sending all reverbs to the same bus has some logic to it. Of course, reverb is one of the most cpu intensive plugins, so there is a huge savings in computing power by doing it this way.
     
  9. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I am using Logic Express, and yes the original track is not muted. idk, it seemed like a cool idea, but then it just didn't work. What about the output? should it be outs 1+2?

    Thanks for the replies.
     
  10. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    The outputs sound be the same as the outputs of your audio tracks. Try it without the reverb plugged in just to make sure that the problem is how you are routing everything. The "reverb" track will sound the same as the track you are sending, but it should still react when you move its fader.
     
  11. NCdan

    NCdan Guest

    I'm talking about slight variations that don't change the "location" much if at all.
     
  12. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Still can't get it to work. Any ideas what could be wrong? I'm not even getting a dupe track to show up. That's what essentially it should sound like until I cut the dry signal in the reverb plug right?
     
  13. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    It sounds like you are not routing something right, this is a fairly simple task it is just DAW specific. You might be better off in a Logic Forum where you could get step by step advice, descriptions like the little wheel are just not very clear to someone without one LOL.
     
  14. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    True. Speaking of which, how come a lot of people don't use Logic around here? It's either like Cuebase or PT or some free device.
     
  15. NCdan

    NCdan Guest

    Adobe Audition 3.0
     
  16. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Well, I would say that people generally like what they use and what they are comfortable with.

    Mac is expensive and requires a different OS than what 90% of the world uses anyway. When your talking about spending more money on something like a computer, I think you'll find that people want to save money. PC's are much more commonplace so Logic is a minority.

    I use LP8 and I think its great! jg's right, goto the Logic forum. I go there all the time.

    You do know, there is a help tab in the software and it has all the manuals right there. Type in a keyword and more than likely you will find the answers there.

    Logic Pro is very deep and its not easy to learn everything as fast as we may like.
     
  17. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    I assume that by Logic forum you mean a different site. The Logic manual is HUGE. even though I type in simple stuff in there I usually get good advice, but not exactly what I'm looking for. But such is the case when balancing specific information with being general enough to please the masses.
     
  18. jammster

    jammster Active Member

    Here you go:

    http://logicprohelp.com/

    Welcome to the world of Logic!
    Bret
     
  19. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    I use cubase for several reasons
    1) It is sooooo much better (just kidding!)
    2)The two pro studios I work with both use Nuendo so tracks can be brought back and forth.
    3)It came with the box
    4)It is one of the industry standards, most of the pro studios I have been in have it or PT or both
     
  20. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    Just in case anyone here was wondering.

    http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=39378
     

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