Roll Off Frequencies

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by paradice, Jun 13, 2006.

  1. paradice

    paradice Guest

    Hi, im a producer making a style of music smilar to drum and bass and i was wondering what frequency i should be rolling my basses off.

    When i roll of at 50hz i get an increase in headroom which makes a better mix


    when i roll of at 30Hz my yamaha msp5's show a noticable difference in the bottom end, it sounds more full.

    I am wondering if rolling off at 50hz will be better than 30? Is that extra 20hz only low end energy/rumble?

    Can somone give me some insight

  2. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Distinguished Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Chicago area, IL, USA
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    Do what best serves the mix. It still stuns me that labels and even the artists themselves are willing to sacrifice audio quality for an extra dB or two...

    But if that's what they insist on, it's your duty to let them know how much more it sucks.
  3. paradice

    paradice Guest

    All im asking is, does that extra 20hz of rumble add energy u can feel?

    Im have my tracks mastered for vinyl, but im talking in tems of putting it on cd. I dj in a different venue each week and i dont have the time to cut everything on to dubplate, id burn my music to cd then go test it in a club... i just want the best possible sound from my mixes so the audience gets the best sound.
  4. saemskin

    saemskin Active Member

    Nov 6, 2005
    Yes. Do you have woofers in your car? If not, get a box with some 10's in it. Make two mixes, one rolled off at 50 and the other at 30. The latter will freaking pound, while the former....well not so much. 40 hz is the magic number imo. Cut below that, but no higher.

    Dowhat best serves the mix, good pointer. Paradice, you already answered your question as far at what you should do.
    Now do it.
  5. paradice

    paradice Guest

    such fine idea! thanks for the feedback.. notes taken!
  6. Don Grossinger

    Don Grossinger Distinguished past mastering moderator Active Member

    Jan 16, 2002
    just north of NYC
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    You have to know your end user. I usually roll off at about 20, even for cutting vinyl. Some folks cut off higher, but I have found, with really full range monitors or a club playback system, you can hear 20 hz or even below.

    It depends on how the track is going to be used: most home playback systems will not go that low & might cause woofer distress trying to reproduce 20 hz or lower.

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