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Samplitude & Sequoia Updates

Discussion in 'Samplitude' started by DigitaLWizarD, May 23, 2015.

  1. DigitaLWizarD

    DigitaLWizarD Active Member

    Samplitude Pro X2 Suite
    Version: 13.1.3.176 | Filesize: 60.03 MB

    Sequoia 13
    Version: 13.1.3.176 | Filesize: 101.78 MB
     
  2. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    @DigitaLWizarD : Every posts you've done was about Samplitude, are you one of their reps ?
    If not, I'd like to know more about what you do, other gear you use and why you've chosen them ;)
     
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  3. DigitaLWizarD

    DigitaLWizarD Active Member

    Hi, pcrecord!

    I'm just someone stuck in an adult body :coffee: but driven by a childlike soul :ROFLMAO: - thanks God for that! :love:

    My profession has nothing to do with music. However, since childhood I changed all my toys for stereos and other paraphernalia related to music. I have some rooms in my house completely crowded with old tapes k7 containing what I always liked to do since I was a fetus: compilation of songs. Honestly, I do not know why I like that. But I love. :confused:

    After many years using SONY and ROXIO products, I found in MAGIX the perfect playground to disconnect me from stressful routines.

    So, I'm not a sales representative of MAGIX, or anyone. I'm just a happy fan who met this forum the ideal place to share some modest experiences about these programs. The official forum of MAGIX is unimpressive, but I really respect the work of Tim Dolbear and Kraznet Montpelier there - thanks to them (and a dose of expensive investment), I'm here.

    In my life, music is just an expensive hobby that gives me well-being. It's my drug, my beer... :eek:

    Thank you for your interest, I hope I have not disappointed you... :)
     
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  4. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Of course not !! I just thought it would be nice to know you a bit more ;)
     
  5. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member


    what you say here and what you have posted in other threads doesn't jive to my mind. that's quite a detailed explanation for a person who claims to be only making "compilation(s) of songs" and engaging in "an expensive hobby". every feature is precisely described. i could live with software for a year and not be able to explain it in that much detail. .... i smell a shill.
     
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  6. DigitaLWizarD

    DigitaLWizarD Active Member

    Thanks for your words, Kurt! I always carefully read your posts and I have endeavored to expand my ideas and views. I don't know you, but I know you are not a shill.

    I am a huge fan of Samplitude/Sequoia and I'm very happy to be here.
     
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  7. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    +1

    No worries posting as much as you want about samplitude. The software kicks the $*^t out of everything I've used in decades.
    The reason i don't need all this extra gear now is solely because I use Samplitude. The world would be a better musical place if more people we're using this software than not. It reduses the need to keep spending.
     
  8. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    I see absolutely no problems with someone who is excited about a certain program or workflow coming out and saying so. It doesn't really matter to me what a person uses a program for, or which they choose to use, as long as it was obtained legitimately. And whether it's just for "playing around" and compiling songs for your own personal enjoyment, or for recording and mixing a fully produced project, makes no difference. Use what you want, and feel free to tell people if you like it.
     
  9. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    This is the samplitude forum btw. I created this forum for people who are interested in Samplitude, the more talk the better. ;)
     
  10. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    Samplitude has been a game-changer for me... and I haven't been all that quiet about it, either - and to my knowledge , I've never caught any flack about saying that it's the best DAW platform I've ever worked with... ( It's what steered me towards creating the Samplitude Tricks and Tips section).

    Some of us make some money in this biz, but many don't make much at all, and do it simply because they love to do it.

    If we can't talk about the tools that we use, and discuss our mutual love for all things audio (which includes DAW's) then what the hell are we all doin' here? o_O
     
  11. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I'm thinking RO should be the public forum for this software, that's how much I love this software. In fact, if Avid gave me a full HDX system, I would sell it in a heartbeat.
     
  12. DigitaLWizarD

    DigitaLWizarD Active Member

    Samplitude Pro X2 Suite
    Version: 13.2.0.205 | Filesize: 70.24 MB

    Sequoia 13
    Version: 13.2.0.205 | Filesize: 105.62 MB

    Changelog attached (Samplitude).
     

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  13. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    @ anyone who's used both versions. Are you finding the difference between x1 suite and x2 suite significant? It's a $ 300 upgrade, which is not super cheap or super expensive. I'm a brand new user, just waiting for some things to tie up before I unbox my new cpu. I know this software kills already. I just don't wanna clutter up my cpu with unnecessary stuff. So if pro X2 is deemed 'must have' I'm gonna upgrade now/soon before I start installing and optimizing.

    The VCA faders and multi channel pitch sound enticing. And I'm all for easier automation.

    Any thoughts on this fellas? I know Donny is still using pro x1. At least last time I checked.
     
  14. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    upgrade if you can, its only going to be better for Windows. The new plug-ins are beautiful.
     
  15. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I don't use Sam because Sequoia has it all and a bit more. But, what ever you get, don't buy into the Independence. Its meh in comparison to better and it bloats your DAW.
     
  16. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Well-Known Member

    Duly noted. I'm gonna start w my copy of x1. Sequoia is priced a bit more real world than it used to be, I'm interested in its broadcasting features. Pro X1 suite seems pretty well appointed. Between that, xara web designer, and xara movie maker premium, I'll have plenty to learn. Very excited about magix software.

    When I build the custom PC, I'm gonna strongly consider sequoia. Maybe in about 2 years.

    Also I meant to ask you specifically @audiokid how exactly you went about modeling all your analog gear. Perhaps some of that might be applicable to me, having acces to my buddy's and the studios analog. Specifically the summit tla, and the 1176 down there. Mucho gracias, I've been waiting a long time to get Sam in the mix lol
     
  17. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Sorry, I can see how my wording is confusing (as usual lol)

    I'm not suggesting to get Sequoia, Its just that Sequoia has it all so I'm clueless to the other option in Sam. Which can all be added into Sam to become almost what Sequoia includes. If you are into Broadcasting/ A/V... then Sequoia is the bomb. Sequoia also is tweaked a bit better for mastering, 4 point editing and the mastering suite. But you can add almost all of Sequoia into Sam.
    Follow?
    In other words, you can get Pro X and the suite with independence. I just don't want you to think it may be worth the $ for that, and imho, its not worth my time.
    All the plug-ins and Spectral editing is well worth it>
    I don't know what bundles are available for Sam today because I use Sequoia, no need for me to know. Make sense?

    So, just saying.. (y)
     
  18. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    ..., long topic there. Let me think about the wording and how I came about "learning how to do this" with perfect reason never to use outboard gear (except for the Bricasti) to mix or master again.
    In the mean time, let me put it simple.

    Nothing is better than a stellar analog rig for tracking. The more you have to pick and choose, the better. However, nothing makes me more happy than an UALA2A, 1176LN, Pulse Technique Pultec's and a Millennia M-2b.
    Nothing makes me more happy to hear a lane with those analog products in the mix, to later mix the session into a master with a Bricasti in between the two DAW system I rave about.
    I'm pretty sure I could be happy with one DAW but 2 DAW's makes it more fluid and fun. Plus, there is something really sweet that happens when you pass a session through a Bricasti in the analog mode and capture that on DAW2. Its subtle but convincing enough that I will be buying more Bricasti's over much else. Digital audio rocks. A Bricasti is digital audio but you can't get all that in a plugin. The analog pass is just enough of a change to take the edge off > Gluing
     
  19. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

    The debate as to whether or not Independence is worth the extra money (or not) really all boils down to it being entirely relative to what you do, what you like, what you need for whatever style(s) you work in.

    It's difficult to make that decision for someone... because we're all different in our styles, and what we require for our productions.

    I don't think that Independence is the best sample library out there.... but it's also by no means the worst I've ever heard, either.

    I tend to agree with Chris that it's kinda "meh" sounding ...Not great, not terrible. I've heard nothing about it that was jaw-dropping, or that had a "wow" factor; but again, that's a personal perception thing. It's certainly not the "everything you'll ever need, end all be all" sample library... (but then again, does a library such as this really even exist anyway?)

    It's hard to say what "the best" is, just as hard to say about the worst as well, because it's all completely relative to what you require ...

    An example: A lot of guys loved the Yamaha DX7 when it first came out back in the mid 80's ... there were umpteen thousands of them sold during the period ( I know, I was working part-time music retail in those days; we'd order 25 of them every month for an entire year ( '85/'86 ) and we still couldn't keep them in stock for longer than just a few weeks at a time )... but, I personally never saw the big deal with it. I was never a fan of FM synthesis, anyway; I always thought it to sound thin, gritty, and sterile.

    I remember in the late 70's and early 80's, when guys were going crazy over New England Digital's Synclavier; ( I think the Synclavier was the first commercially available FM synth, it pre-dated the DX7 by about 6 years or so) and it too was used on all sorts of records at the time ... but it never "did" anything for me personally. FM was simply not a sound that I cared for.
    I was much happier with real Wurli's, Rhodes, Clavs and Hammonds - along with fat and warm sounding Analog synths like the Roland Jupiter, the Korg Poly, Sequential Circuits' Prophet Five, the Oberheim OB-8, and even the early 8 and 12 bit samplers from Ensoniq and Emu sounded much better - to me - than FM synthesis did.

    But, that opinion sure didn't stop 25 Cleveland/Akron area musicians from buying a new one every month for that year, (and that was just one music store out of 12 in the area); nor did my opinion affect the hundreds of hit records released during that time that had the DX7 all over them; being used as a primary synth on more records than one could count ( especially the DX7 "Rhodes"patch ... ( Man, I still shudder when I hear that preset :X3:).
    Jan Hammer helped to make it famous - and highly sought after - almost overnight; after stating in an interview that the DX7 was one of the synths he used to record the Miami Vice theme.
    (Contrary to myth, it was not the only synth he used for that recording).

    My point ? No one can really say what's good or bad, because everyone is different in what they do and what they like. You might find Independence to be a useful library for your production/compositional style. Or you may find it to be exactly what Chris described... mediocre sounds; and computer bloat that isn't worth the storage space.

    I can say - personally - that there are a few Independence samples I do like... I think their "American Soul" bass guitar samples are pretty decent, along with some of their analog synth pads; but their pianos are "just okay", and their Organ samples are downright God-Awful; it doesn't even come close to NI's B4, which by the way, IMO, sounds outstanding. Their "Rhodes" sample is very similar to the DX7; it's far too "chimey" and bell-sounding; which, to anyone who has ever heard a real Rhodes, knows that it doesn't sound even close to the real thing.

    But, I didn't make the conscious decision to buy Independence. It came stock with Pro X Suite, so, I take it for what it's worth. I've found some of the samples to be decent, others not so much; but I'm not sure that the same thing couldn't also be said for any other "general" sample library of sounds as well.

    When you get a library like Independence, which is not a "tailor made" library that focuses on one particular specialized use ( like the Alan Parsons Grand Piano Collection, or Vienna Strings, etc.), you kinda take the good with the not-so-good, because its intention is to provide a cross-section of many different sounds and samples. It's kinda like going to a cheap buffet for $10, where you can get pretty much anything you want, but none of it is particularly all that good.... as opposed to going to a fine restaurant that does one or two things very well ... and in that regard, I would say that Independence is probably about par for the course with most other "buffet style" libraries. ;)

    IMHO of course.
    -d.
     
  20. pcrecord

    pcrecord Don't you want the best recording like I do ? Well-Known Member

    Back in the days when I first started to play drums, the keyboard players had 3 or more make of keyb on their stand because every company was better at something...
     

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