Saving MP3 adds silence to end of track

Discussion in 'Mastering' started by ferociousj, May 19, 2009.

  1. ferociousj

    ferociousj Active Member

    Hi I just made an EP where all the songs segue into each other. Basically what I did was take all the songs and overlapped them or add segues together in a session in Adobe Auditions. Then I mixed them all down to a single 11 minute track, then I split them up into 4 songs so when they are played back to back there there is no silence AT ALL between the tracks. Well when I saved the 4 tracks and opened them up in WMP I noticed a small clipping between each song. I opened up the tracks separately in Audition and there is a very small bit of silence, like 10 milliseconds or so, added to the end of each song as a result of saving. If I delete the silence then save it it just does it again. Anyone know how to get around this?
     
  2. MadTiger3000

    MadTiger3000 Active Member

    I don't know of any workaround to that 0.01 sec pad.

    You really don't have a problem. At least, I don't see it that way.

    You have a way for someone to listen to the songs all at once, like a concept album, with the 11-minute mix. You have a way for someone to listen to the songs one at a time, by having each separate track. If they want to play them all in a row, why not use the 11-minute segue mix?
     
  3. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Or get it pressed on vinyl? OH...I hear 8 track is making some kind of small come back...

    Dad used to call it goofing off when me and the boys drove around for 15 minutes listening to 8 tracks...we called it fast forwarding!
     
  4. ferociousj

    ferociousj Active Member

    Haha I am a huge fan of cassette tapes. I always make it a point to release every album or ep i make on tape. I usually just give the tapes away. Some people don't even have tape players which is just sad. I was actually looking at vinyl pressing costs earlier tonight and the cheapest I found for 100 12" pressings was around the 800-900 range. Considering the profit I would make it seems like a really great idea, but I don't know if I could sell off 100 copies and I certainly dont want to be stuck with them. I think for my next project I'm going to press vinyl. At some point in my music career I have to do it. Anyone here have any connections? I'm also considering starting a record label called Noise Horror Records.
     
  5. SuprSpy79

    SuprSpy79 Active Member

    I know for example in wave labs you can insert the tracks seperately in a single line then nudge them together where you want them and when you burn the master cd it will play like you hear it. Ive never used it be ive seen people do it this way.
     
  6. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    the problem is with the mp3 format. I believe it rounds up to the next block size and will insert silence at the end of the track to fill it. iTunes will allow for a "gapless" import of a CD, not sure if this is just a crossfade or if they calculate the import differently. I don't know if it will also translate outside of itunes either, never tried it.
     
  7. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    It's up to the player. This is just one of the (many, significant) down-sides to MP3.
     

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