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Discussion in 'Recording' started by niclaus, Jan 14, 2008.

  1. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member


    I'm one of the few who still hapen to be using sound designer for some part of my job, and i was kind of wondering if you guys would know any woftware who would have such a great scrub, and do powerfull destructive editing???
    (running on mac or PC)

    The destructive editing is the most important part, cause it saves me lots of time when doing 1000 edits in one file without having the machine running low on memory...

    Thanks in advance...

  2. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Really?? Destructive editing at 1000 points? You'd spend half of your day waiting for the machine to render.

    I've done sessions in Sequoia with over 500 edit points and my machine never so much as flinched - nor did I need to wait around for it to do its thing either. Then, at the end of the day, you tell it to mix down and come back in the morning to a completed file...
  3. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member

    Well, that's the point, i don't want to wait the whole night to be able to use the edited file...
    In SD2, you just make your edit, and that's it... Plus, you don't have to ask him to make fades when doing micro-editing since it has a smoothing algorithm which works pretty well...
    I'm sorry, i'm kind of asking for the impossible here, but i'm afraid that in a couple of years i won't be able to have SD2 running, and since i use it on a daily basis, i starting to freak out...

    Anyway, thanks for your kind answer, and i sure will give an eye to "sequoia"...
  4. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    Adobe Audition has great destructive editing.
  5. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    You can use the file in Sequoia or Samplitude (it's little brother) immediately. It's only if you want to commit to your changes that you have to render. If your machines reasonably fast, you'll find that even a very lengthy bounce with numerous edits takes maybe 10 minutes. (By lengthy with numerous edits, I've recently done a 1 hour and 7 minute disc with a little over 300 edit points and the bounce took me maybe 7 minutes.)

    The reason that destructive editors aren't really haute couture today is that non-destructive editing is, well, non-destructive and you can commit to your destruction at any point. Audition does have a great non-destructive editor, as does Sequoia, but mostly nowadays, these features aren't really considered the selling point.

    I guess my point is, it's probably better to learn a new, more-efficient workflow now than when you have to due to obsolescense.

    (BTW, Sequoia as well as most others have an auto cross-fade system that allows for pretty easy splicing. Audition's works pretty nicely as I recall working on several a project in Cool Edit Pro 2.0 before it became Audition.)

  6. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member

    ok, thanks for that, i'll check them out...

    Another thing, the scrub in SD2 was amazing, what about it in those ones???
  7. zemlin

    zemlin Well-Known Member

    define "amazing" - what are you looking for?
    Both programs scrub just fine as far as I'm concerned.

    The newest update of Audition includes auto cross-fading in the non-destructive multitrack mode, as well as splice-smoothing in destructive mode.

    You can download a trial of Audition.
    A trial of Sequoia is not available, but it's "little" brother Samplitude Pro has a demo version.

    I use both Audition and Samplitude Pro. For WAV editing, I prefer Audition.
  8. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member

    Well, it's hard to explain what makes a great scrub...
    I guess i'll have to try those out.

    Anyway, thank you so much for your help, and i'll sure give you my impressions on those software as soon as i try them.

    Thanks again

  9. niclaus

    niclaus Active Member

    Unfortunately, they all require a PC...
    I'll need to borrow one of these evil beasts...!!!

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