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Sell my Beta52a to buy an Audix D6???

Discussion in 'Pro Audio Equipment' started by therecordingart, Dec 7, 2004.

  1. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    I don't really like my Beta52a that much. I've tried every last bass drum...tuned, un-tuned, DW, Tama, Pearl....everything I can get my hands on and I can't get a decent kick drum sound coming into the board. My room live room and control room are both decent, my monitors are good, I think I can finally blame it on the mic or the pre's. Everything other than my kicks sound at least decent.

    Should I sell my Beta52 for an Audix D6 or an AKG D112??? I don't have any experience with either mic.
     
  2. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Both are excellent.I like the the Audix just a bit more than the 112..Keep yer Beta. It works well on guitar cabinets and bass cabinets.And as a good low tom mic.The Audix is instant good kick drum sound...stick it and forget it...
     
  3. inLoco

    inLoco Active Member

    never used the d6 altough i've ordered a d4 and 2 d2 to use but i can say i love the d112! it's great besides the kick with bass amps, some guitar amps and are a suprise on background vocals too...
    for what i know the d112 is more versatile than the d6 but both are great for kick drum!
     
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Just to cloud the waters further ... I like the D112 more than the D6 ... the D6 doesn't give me enough tick for my taste ... I like that "basketball in an empty gym" sound ...
     
  5. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    I've read that the D6 is a very easy mic to use in the sense that you can't put it anywhere in a decent bass drum and get a nice sound.
     
  6. Doublehelix

    Doublehelix Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I like my D6 also! I tend to put the D6 inside the kick pointing at the beater, and then an old D12e outside the hole...makes for a nice combo.
     
  7. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    I'm looking for a nice hard rock/metal kick sound....I know the room, the pre, placement, the drum, and the drummer are all factors but I want the best mic for the job. D6 or D112 is probably one of the debateable topics for this application. What do you think?
     
  8. Fede

    Fede Active Member

    For metal/hard rock I'd definately say D6. I like the D6 better (best of all, actually), but I'd say that especially for hard rock/metal there's no doubt.
     
  9. sproll

    sproll Active Member

    What about selling my D4 for a D6? :D

    I know you guys are very anti-sell however, each mic seems to work good on something. What do you guys think about the D4?
     
  10. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    I use my D4 on a LOT of things.Its just a great little mic....I like it right on the beater head in a kick for my klick and an ATM25 out in front at the blast hole for the whoomp...adjust to taste.I also use it on the low toms when I'm using the ATM25 by itself...which is ALSO a killer kick drum mic.
     
  11. rojo

    rojo Guest

    strange but all the drumers i've worked with like better the sound of the beta52 than the d-112 but i haven't tried the d6.

    on the d-112 i can get good kick sounds but i have to eq alot, with th beta52 don't need to eq that much.

    also i use an api 512c mic pre, which i consider excellent for rock drum sounds + more.

    on the d-112, someone told me you can remove the "foam" from the mic's inside and that will give a more "airy" sound, I haven't tried it.
     
  12. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    See I find myself EQ'ing the hell out of the Beta52. I don't know what the problem is.
     
  13. shock

    shock Guest

    To get that metal / hardrock kick-sound, you have to EQ the hell out of every mic out there. Real bassdrums just don't sound like that.
    Back on topic, I'm very happy with my Beta52. I've used it sucessfully on kick, gran cassa and bass amps. But then, I've never really tried the d6.
     
  14. bobbo

    bobbo Active Member

    Re:d6

    I have used the d6 for over 2 years for metal music, and as long as you compress the kick a little before after tracking, you should get a nice kick drum sound, and if you are trying to get a "as i lay dieing" kick drum sound then i suggest lots of compression and lots of eq to give it that "triggered" drum sound. You could also probably put a mic on the beater side of the head too if possible. I have never tried that though so i don't know how well it would sound or how much snare bleed you would get.

    bobbo
     
  15. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    Live? D6, Recording, neither. I really do not like the beta52 either. It is kind of blah sounding to me.

    Get the Beta 91 pillow mic. It takes two mics to get what this one gives. You get all of the high-end attack that you could ever want, and all of the shell reconance.

    The D6 is boosted drastically to the point that it is a one-trick pony. EQ really won't do much for ya. For live use it is great.

    I would also consider the Audio Technica ATM25. I have used them live, and some big name engineers use them to record with as well.
     
  16. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    This is what I do for metal. Track one, Beta 52 at shell hole, Track 2 Beta 91 on pillow. Track high passed around 3kHz. Track 2 low passed around 75Hz. I get the attack and the resonance and no garbage in between, In the mix it sits very well. I almost always use no eq and I tweek by adjusting the mix between the tracks and the pass filters.
     
  17. Audix D6 vs AKG-112 (12) vs Sennheiser E602

    Has anyone used an E602 on Kick or Bass? I'm looking to add another Kick/Bass mic and I'm torn between the Audix D6, AKG-112, and the Sennheiser E602.
     
  18. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    anyone tried the d112 on congas- maybe micing the bottom for extra low end? I'm gonna try it this weend and see... (with a tube mic on top in omni or figure 8....
     

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