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Serious Newb Here, need help

Discussion in 'Recording' started by allen459, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. allen459

    allen459 Guest

    Hey guys

    So i could not be more new to sound equipment, so new that my terminology ends at mics and firewire. Anyway, i have been working for a post production company for the past few months that has this great unused audio room along with a 35ft stage. Now after talking with my bosses, they said that if i take the time to learn the equipment and to set up the room, i can use it for recording music or one day for films.
    Now this is what they have in there, Solid State Logic mix board and also pro tools software (which might change) along with a small voice over room which can fit one person or one instrument at a time. Now i need a ton of help on this so maybe you guys could direct me to a link if you dont want to take the time to explain things, but id like to know where is the best place to set up mics (and why), what to be aware of, when using the stage for scratch recordings how far away should the band be from eachother/how should they be mic'd? Basically any information that you guys could give me i'd really appreciate it. In the meantime ill be looking over your guys posts.
     
  2. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

    This thread helped me understand room recording. Not exactly the same as stage recording, but maybe you'll learn something anyway.

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    Good Luck
    -Jake
     
  3. soapfloats

    soapfloats Well-Known Member

    This thread should be very helpful:
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    In short, you want the best mic for the source - the mic that sounds the best.
    I listed the above thread b/c it shows how polar patterns and placement can be used to your benefit.
    You want the band close enough to communicate visually and feel a groove, but separated enough to take advantage of the mics' polar patterns to lessen bleed and improve isolation.
    If it's a scratch track, bleed is less of a concern. I wouldn't want a whole lot of stray vocals or guitars in my drum mics though.
    Every mic manufacturer should have this information readily available.

    Three keys in mic selection (not the only ones!):
    1. Polar pattern (pick-up pattern)
    2. Frequency response (which pitches it picks up better/worse than others)
    3. Type - Dynamic, Condenser, Ribbon. Each has its advantages/disadvantages.

    Hope that helps.
    There's a lot more to it than that, but it should give you a jumping off point.
     
  4. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    Wow, what a good problem to have! There are a lot of us who would love to have the equipment resources you have been offered.

    Reading is best, but you can pick up some valuable tips by watching the boob tube too. You can observe a lot of mic placement techniques by watching the professional TV guys do their thing. You don't get to watch the process, but if you look at their mic night after night, band after band - there's a common zone they have found that works with just about everybody. All the late night talks shows can give you a good idea of where to start with mic placement etc.

    There's a cool series currently running with bands performing live from Abbey Road Studios. With the classic Abbey Road gobos (movable walls) around the drums. The rest of the band in sort of a semi-circle facing each other with good sight lines.

    Later with Jools Holland is another good show for a wide variety of live music. And it's mind boggling thinking about having all those bands set-up simultaneously.
     
  5. iamfrobs

    iamfrobs Guest

    So jealous.
    SO freakin' jealous.

    The Live from Abbey Road series is amazing, especially in HD.

    My advice would be to keep the vibe, and move things only as far apart as you have to (exception being drums). In my experience of doing a recording live, as opposed to tracking, a band that will record live plays much better, so you aren't really taking as much of a risk.

    Could always track it right on the stage too if it sounds good.
     

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