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sharing audio data between 2 computers with Windows 7

Discussion in 'Computers / Software' started by audiokid, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    I want to share data between my recording CP and my mastering CP. Both computers are not hardwired to the internet. The only way I access the internet is through one Dlink wireless usb dongle. I share the dongle between the two. The dongle is a pain and I wish I could run ethernet into my control room but its not an option anytime soon.

    I have a few questions,

    1.) I want to share data between the two CP's both on win7 pro. Whats the best way to do this?
    I am aware the I can connect an ethernet crossover cable. I've never done this so I thought I should ask just in case there are better ways that make it all work smoother leading up to question 2.
    2.) Not so important because the dongle works fine but if I can get rid of that dongle and somehow put it on a router (offline) and then connect the two computers to that, that would be pretty cool. This way I would free up any usb port on the CP's and use the ethernet for internet and data sharing.

    So my second question is: can I use one wireless computer or that dongle so they are both connected at the same time?

    I've been reading about workgroups and homegroups and sharing folders.
    I also have a few unused routers laying around. Hope this makes sense, what should I do?

    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Yes, it's easy enough to connect both PCs to a stand-alone hub (or a router) that has no external connection. You would use standard ethernet cables for this, and assign two different ethernet addresses from a group reserved for local operations (e.g. 192.168.10.xxx). The crucial thing for an audio PC is never to open a browser - just use Control Panel once to set up the addresses and then use Explorer to perform file transfers. This, of course, needs both computers connected at the same time.

    It's quite possible to use wireless connection instead of wired, but to avoid any chance of audio breakthrough I would recommend that you install cabling.
     
  3. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Wireless speeds are just too slow to move any decent amount of data.

    Actually, you just need to connect that "crossover" cable of appropriate length... provided that both computers have a network card.

    You'll need to set up appropriate type file sharing on the source computer... unless you're sharing files both ways.

    If so, you'll need to add a user account on both computers, that allow them to read and write files into the specified folders.

    I don't recommend sharing the typical "public" folders, as you have a wireless connection in the loop. Those folder then become extremely vulnerable. Choose a folder directly on each computer's data drive and make those folders only visible to the "authenticated" users you previously set up.

    So the IP addresses don't screw up your existing router configuration, just use DHCP instead of static IP, and use computer names to browse for each box.

    The "best" permanent solution is to get a decent switch in there; ISP -> Modem -> Router -> Switch -> Network/computers

    You can then set up something like a SAN/NAS or DAS box for all your file sharing.

    The advantage is that you don't use the flaked out/basically unstable file sharing capabilities of Windoze on your workstations... increasing your security and OS stability by a factor of a coupla' thousand percent.

    Putting the responsibility of file sharing on a dedicated device/box is just plain easier, to boot!
     
  4. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Thanks Bos and Max for your help. Looks like the crossover cable makes the most sense.

    Cheers!
     
  5. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Update,

    I have 2 computers on Windows 7, 64bit working great now. Both computers have Samplitude (Sequoia 13) and Ableton Live installed. Having the same DAW's on both computers makes hybrid audio a whole lot easier. Here is the basic approach.

    Connect to two PC via a simple Ethernet router.
    Create a Home Group sharing Network.
    Assign specific folders on both computers to share files.
    Computer 1 is the 32 channel ADDA Recording and Mixing computer
    Computer 2 is my 8 channel ADDA mixdown, master and upload/download computer.
    Both computers are connected to an independent central monitoring system that shares, cue, headphones, talkback, 3 sets of speakers and 3 independent converters which can be word clocked or uncoupled for specific analog or digital workflow.

    My main purpose for this is based around transparent monitoring between a workflow that can share tracks back and forth at a pretty reasonable speed.
     
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  6. Makzimia

    Makzimia Active Member

    +1 on the crossover cable if you haven't cemented your idea. We used that on online game servers years ago too. The only advantage of a router is you might get some mileage out of onboard processing from it, because built in network cards are not that great usually. Back in the day we used NICs with onboard ram too :). Some around these days with mini OSes on too if you want to go really fancy :).
     
  7. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    The router was a must when I added SSL X Patch's. I not only connect the DAW's and main monitoring together, I now connect digital patchbays so the entire system interact / shares outboard processing. With a click of a mouse (or midi), I can on-the-fly tell outboard gear to go somewhere in the matrix.
    As an example, my 1176LN can be used for "tracking, mixing or mastering" on any computer without pulling a cable or missing a beat. I can create chains and switch their orders and not even hear a click. Routers are a beautiful thing!
     
  8. Makzimia

    Makzimia Active Member

    D'OH, forgot you had the SSL X patch too yep. Routerrrrrrrrrrrrr away!
     
  9. audiokid

    audiokid Staff

    Yes! and you are heading in this same direction. You too have the Dangerous Monitor ST and an SSL Xpatch. Its going to get fun, Tony! :whistle:
     

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